Jacobs barely beat SD, media said he was a top Canelo opponent. Why not GGG then?

[Boxing Logic]

This shows the strong hatred against, and double standard against, GGG within the American boxing media.

Jacobs knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 round, everyone says it proves he's a top middleweight, and he's a worthy "top opponent" for Canelo.

GGG knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 or more rounds, but some in the media are saying he's shot, he can't compete with Canelo anymore, and so on.

What in the actual #@&%?

Canelo vs GGG 3 is still the biggest fight in boxing. The first two fights still did not provide a clear winner getting the official win. Even if GGG is 38, a clear win for either in a third fight is still the defining performance of their careers.

Are we all forgetting styles make fights? In some ways GGG looked more vulnerable vs Derevyanchenko than before, but he never looked close to even going down once, let alone getting knocked out. I think we're all so used to him looking invincible that we're overreacting now to the first sign of vulnerability.

For context, Canelo is fighting Kovalev next. Compare how Kovalev looked at the end of the first Alvarez fight to how GGG looked vs Derevyanchenko, if you want to talk about vulnerable, or "shot," fighters who are no longer worthy of fighting Canelo. GGG never even came close to that. So as I was saying, in some ways GGG looked more vulnerable, but in other ways he looked more clever and active and accurate landing power shots than he has since his prime. Banks didn't do a great job in some areas but he did do a good job in a few others, and it showed.

I'm not sure Canelo will get past Kovalev, but even if he doesn't, GGG vs Canelo 3 is still the fight that needs to happen in the MIDDLEWEIGHT division to determine a true #1. Then once we have the true #1, the rest of the division can start rolling and those fights will mean a lot more.

Right now, Canelo vs Andrade is marred by the fact that most don't feel Canelo is #1 at 160. GGG vs Andrade, similar thing, most feel he's #1, but officially he's #2. And same goes for Charlo or Saunders fighting these guys. Canelo vs GGG need to settle their business so that there is one guy, and one torch, ready to be passed to the next guy.

[Boxing Logic]

I made this topic because there seems to be a push by some media and some fans who hate GGG to use the Derevyanchenko fight as a pretext to box out GGG from getting the third Canelo fight that basically his entire career has been leading up to.

That **** is like GRR Martin writing 10 Game of Thrones books, but then telling him "don't finish the final chapter though, just ship out the book without a final chapter, let's just move on."

What the #@$% is that man??? And then because 100 naysayers on twitter are pretending like they wouldn't watch the third GGG-Canelo fight on the edge of their seats, you got this narrative going that fans really aren't that interested anymore, or GGG had to look dominant vs Derevyanchenko for fans to be interested.

Bull****. There's more interest now than ever after all the bad blood between GGG and Canelo. But my message to boxing fans is, make sure DAZN hears you. Make sure they hear what most boxing fans think, not just the naysayers. Make sure they know we still want to see that fight, now more than any time since GGG's KO streak, which isn't coming back but guess what, you don't need a KO streak to still be the #1 middleweight. And it would still mean a lot to Canelo's legacy to clearly beat the #1 mdidleweight, if he can.

[Mrsantiago]

Jacobs had a far easier time with SD than GGG but that doesn’t mean much because styles make fights although most people here believe in triangle theories and alternate facts.

[Zaroku]

I made this topic because there seems to be a push by some media and some fans who hate GGG to use the Derevyanchenko fight as a pretext to box out GGG from getting the third Canelo fight that basically his entire career has been leading up to.

That **** is like GRR Martin writing 10 Game of Thrones books, but then telling him "don't finish the final chapter though, just ship out the book without a final chapter, let's just move on."

What the #@$% is that man??? And then because 100 naysayers on twitter are pretending like they wouldn't watch the third GGG-Canelo fight on the edge of their seats, you got this narrative going that fans really aren't that interested anymore, or GGG had to look dominant vs Derevyanchenko for fans to be interested.

Bull****. There's more interest now than ever after all the bad blood between GGG and Canelo. But my message to boxing fans is, make sure DAZN hears you. Make sure they hear what most boxing fans think, not just the naysayers. Make sure they know we still want to see that fight, now more than any time since GGG's KO streak, which isn't coming back but guess what, you don't need a KO streak to still be the #1 middleweight. And it would still mean a lot to Canelo's legacy to clearly beat the #1 mdidleweight, if he can.

i am mexican..***.. i bet money.. real money. canelo lost the first fight.. he won the second.. i see no need for a third... i bet money... big money regularly.. i lose or win big..

canelo wrked eteted ggg,,,, canelo has a chin and big balls.. mexicans.. we got it like that..

GGG wants redemption. he cant get it fighting Canelo.. canelo is too strong.. have i mentioned that I do not like canelo?

i speak hebrew.. spanish.. my english is not so good..

english is like a foregin language..

i listen to lectures in math and physics in hebrew. my japanese.. perfect.. too perfect.. my wife uses a dictionary when we talk to deep..

she says.. nobody talks this way anymore.. she is 20 years younger. and she is amazed... i know herlanguage better than her..

canelo beat ggg.. ruied him.. mentally.. most of the chit you will ever encounter is mental..usually fear based..


you are obviously young..

here..please and I do mean please focus and learn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04

[Mammoth]

Despite the SD Jacobs beat Derevyanchenko pretty damn clean....

[AKAcronym]

All I know is that if Golovkin was 31 like Jacobs was, that fight would've been a lot different.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Because Jacobs lost to GGG and Canelo fought Jacobs instead of a third fight with GGG.

[CauliflowerEars]

GGG knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 or more rounds, but some in the media are saying he's shot, he can't compete with Canelo anymore, and so on.
Canelo vs GGG 3 is still the biggest fight in boxing. The first two fights still did not provide a clear winner getting the official win. Even if GGG is 38, a clear win for either in a third fight is still the defining performance of their careers.
I'm not sure Canelo will get past Kovalev, but even if he doesn't, GGG vs Canelo 3 is still the fight that needs to happen in the MIDDLEWEIGHT division to determine a true #1. Then once we have the true #1, the rest of the division can start rolling and those fights will mean a lot more.
Right now, Canelo vs Andrade is marred by the fact that most don't feel Canelo is #1 at 160. GGG vs Andrade, similar thing, most feel he's #1, but officially he's #2. And same goes for Charlo or Saunders fighting these guys. Canelo vs GGG need to settle their business so that there is one guy, and one torch, ready to be passed to the next guy.

Are you familiar with the concept of "too big to fail" ?
We obviously have naysayers and many things out in social media, motivated by fandom.
But in reality, I believe the GGG vs Canelo trilogy is "too big to fail".
Regardless of what fighter fans or even the media put out there, the fight is big and too big to never happen.

It won't be the best version of each fighter, but the fight will happen. You could draw some similarities to Mayweather-Pacquiao. That fight should have happened sooner, but there was no way they were leaving that amount of cash on the table. Anybody claiming they would not watch Canelo-GGG III are probably blowing smoke.
I would just be patient and basically ignore the naysayers...
Peace.

[aboutfkntime]

This shows the strong hatred against, and double standard against, GGG within the American boxing media.

Jacobs knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 round, everyone says it proves he's a top middleweight, and he's a worthy "top opponent" for Canelo.

GGG knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 or more rounds, but some in the media are saying he's shot, he can't compete with Canelo anymore, and so on.

What in the actual #@&%?

Canelo vs GGG 3 is still the biggest fight in boxing. The first two fights still did not provide a clear winner getting the official win. Even if GGG is 38, a clear win for either in a third fight is still the defining performance of their careers.

Are we all forgetting styles make fights? In some ways GGG looked more vulnerable vs Derevyanchenko than before, but he never looked close to even going down once, let alone getting knocked out. I think we're all so used to him looking invincible that we're overreacting now to the first sign of vulnerability.

For context, Canelo is fighting Kovalev next. Compare how Kovalev looked at the end of the first Alvarez fight to how GGG looked vs Derevyanchenko, if you want to talk about vulnerable, or "shot," fighters who are no longer worthy of fighting Canelo. GGG never even came close to that. So as I was saying, in some ways GGG looked more vulnerable, but in other ways he looked more clever and active and accurate landing power shots than he has since his prime. Banks didn't do a great job in some areas but he did do a good job in a few others, and it showed.

I'm not sure Canelo will get past Kovalev, but even if he doesn't, GGG vs Canelo 3 is still the fight that needs to happen in the MIDDLEWEIGHT division to determine a true #1. Then once we have the true #1, the rest of the division can start rolling and those fights will mean a lot more.

Right now, Canelo vs Andrade is marred by the fact that most don't feel Canelo is #1 at 160. GGG vs Andrade, similar thing, most feel he's #1, but officially he's #2. And same goes for Charlo or Saunders fighting these guys. Canelo vs GGG need to settle their business so that there is one guy, and one torch, ready to be passed to the next guy.

even Eddie Hearn admitted that Golovkin needed to put on a devastating performance against Derevyanchenko to position himself for a trilogy fight with Canelo...

Hearn: GGG Must Be Devastating To Apply Pressure For Canelo

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-ggg-devastating-apply-pressure-canelo--143134

was Golovkin devastating in the Derevyanchenko fight... ?


btw, Canelo did not select Danny Jacobs because he beat Derevyanchenko... Canelo selected Jacobs because he proved that he was the 2nd best middleweight on the planet when he took Golovkin to the wire


was Golovkin devastating in the Derevyanchenko fight... ?

[aboutfkntime]

Jacobs had a far easier time with SD than GGG but that doesn’t mean much because styles make fights although most people here believe in triangle theories and alternate facts.

Jacobs had an easier time with Derevy because of styles, and because of familiarity... they sparred MANY times over the years