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Jacobs barely beat SD, media said he was a top Canelo opponent. Why not GGG then?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    Canelo gains nothing from beating Golovkin. Read the forum, they're all discrediting Derev's performance claiming Golovkin is old. Canelo should fight Andrade or a 168 titlist. Let Golovkin mix it up with the contenders, those who beat him place themselves in position for Canelo. The Canelo-Golovkin ship has sailed.




    that is a really good point...

    Hearn stated that G needed to put on a " devastating " performance to put pressure on Canelo

    well, that never happened

    if the reason why, is because Golovkin got old..... then rematching Golovkin is a waste of time for Canelo

    if the reason why, is because Derevy was too good..... then rematching Golovkin is a waste of time for Canelo

    I would guess that it is highly unlikely a trilogy fight will ever happen

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BLASTER1 View Post
      Not until he gets a decisive W against G.
      If he doesn't fight G their will always be a question mark next to both fights.
      Plus it's still the biggest money fight for both guys.
      If it did happen I would prefer it to be at 168


      if the reason why Golovkin struggled with Derevy is because he got old... how will beating Golovkin now be a decisive W for Canelo?

      you know that there would only be excuses... and accusations that Canelo waited for Golovkin to get old

      like I said earlier... if EVER Golovkin was going to turn his attention to legacy... speak now, or forever hold your peace

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BLASTER1 View Post
        He definitely has to be a gym rat and have a nutritionist telling him what to eat plus a very adaptable conditioning guy but saying that if he has such a great nutritionist wouldn't they know about the meat in Mexico and isn't Clen a weight stripping agent.
        I have no doubt he puts in the hard yards, almost certainly more than the average fighter but its just a cpl of things to think about.
        Does Canelo have a formal nutritionist though? Fairly certain that Chepo was preparing the food.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          Does Canelo have a formal nutritionist though? Fairly certain that Chepo was preparing the food.
          You would think he would have if he's going up and down in weights the way he is.
          But to be honest I'm not really sure.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            I completely agree

            also... he has been " reluctant " (nicest way that I can put it, "refused" is probably more accurate) to test himself against the very best
            100% agree.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
              100% agree.


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              • #37
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                This shows the strong hatred against, and double standard against, GGG within the American boxing media.

                Jacobs knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 round, everyone says it proves he's a top middleweight, and he's a worthy "top opponent" for Canelo.

                GGG knocks down Derevyanchenko once early, wins the fight by 1 or more rounds, but some in the media are saying he's shot, he can't compete with Canelo anymore, and so on.

                What in the actual #@&%?

                Canelo vs GGG 3 is still the biggest fight in boxing. The first two fights still did not provide a clear winner getting the official win. Even if GGG is 38, a clear win for either in a third fight is still the defining performance of their careers.

                Are we all forgetting styles make fights? In some ways GGG looked more vulnerable vs Derevyanchenko than before, but he never looked close to even going down once, let alone getting knocked out. I think we're all so used to him looking invincible that we're overreacting now to the first sign of vulnerability.

                For context, Canelo is fighting Kovalev next. Compare how Kovalev looked at the end of the first Alvarez fight to how GGG looked vs Derevyanchenko, if you want to talk about vulnerable, or "shot," fighters who are no longer worthy of fighting Canelo. GGG never even came close to that. So as I was saying, in some ways GGG looked more vulnerable, but in other ways he looked more clever and active and accurate landing power shots than he has since his prime. Banks didn't do a great job in some areas but he did do a good job in a few others, and it showed.

                I'm not sure Canelo will get past Kovalev, but even if he doesn't, GGG vs Canelo 3 is still the fight that needs to happen in the MIDDLEWEIGHT division to determine a true #1. Then once we have the true #1, the rest of the division can start rolling and those fights will mean a lot more.

                Right now, Canelo vs Andrade is marred by the fact that most don't feel Canelo is #1 at 160. GGG vs Andrade, similar thing, most feel he's #1, but officially he's #2. And same goes for Charlo or Saunders fighting these guys. Canelo vs GGG need to settle their business so that there is one guy, and one torch, ready to be passed to the next guy.
                - -Nobody wants that torch you keep in your keister.

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                • #38
                  Jacobs did FAR better vs chenko than ggg ever did. Jacobs beat him convincingly as well, while GGG's "win" was up in the air. GGG/chenko was not even a close fight to be honest. Chenko demolished him.

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                  • #39
                    only ppl that wanna see this pointless third fight are triple flop fans.

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                    • #40
                      I'd rather see Golovkin rematch Derevyanchenko next. Screw the manditory. Golivkin doesn't need a belt at this point in his career. In my mind he beat Canelo twice. The Canelo fight is going to happen title or no title if Golovkin beats Derevyanchenko in the rematch. If Canelo doesn't want to fight him he will have to deal with DAZN.

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