Comments Thread For: Haye: Usyk's Attributes Beat 90% of Heavyweights Out There!

[kafkod]

Ortiz however carries a ton more power than Usyk and at HW power and punch absorption is all that matters

If you make statements like you need to back them up with evidence.

What evidence is there that Ortiz carries a ton more power than Usyk?

[Boxingfanatic75]

If you make statements like you need to back them up with evidence.

What evidence is there that Ortiz carries a ton more power than Usyk?

Usyk is not a one punch KO artist. He finishes his opponents with flurries of punches. Ortiz OTOH has one punch KO power AT THE HW LEVEL

That was a fair question

[thabanga510]

Attributes are nice, but in the heavyweight division whoever lands their power shot wins.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Tyson Fury has neither yet his casual UK fanbase claim he's the best HW out there.

He is undoubtedly ONE of the best HWs and can take a HW punch because he gets up.

[kafkod]

Usyk is not a one punch KO artist. He finishes his opponents with flurries of punches. Ortiz OTOH has one punch KO power AT THE HW LEVEL

That was a fair question

Ortiz has only ever KO'd one top 10 opponent, and that was Bryant Jennings over 4 years ago.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Ortiz has only ever KO'd one top 10 opponent, and that was Bryant Jennings over 4 years ago.

Trying to deduce his KO power amongst top 10 is deceiving at best. There are HUGE # of KO artists at every weight class that don’t KO top 10 competition and that’s by a large number. That’s the reason why they are top 10. Tyson couldn’t KO many top 10 fighters but there is little doubt in anyone’s mind whether or not he was a KO artist. Ortiz buzzed Wilder. Had he landed flush it may have very well have been a one punch KO. That’s the beauty of HW. There is little doubt as to whether or not Ortiz has one punch KO power. It’s blatantly obvious that he does

[kafkod]

Trying to deduce his KO power amongst top 10 is deceiving at best. There are HUGE # of KO artists at every weight class that don’t KO top 10 competition and that’s by a large number. That’s the reason why they are top 10. Tyson couldn’t KO many top 10 fighters but there is little doubt in anyone’s mind whether or not he was a KO artist. Ortiz buzzed Wilder. Had he landed flush it may have very well have been a one punch KO. That’s the beauty of HW. There is little doubt as to whether or not Ortiz has one punch KO power. It’s blatantly obvious that he does

Tyson couldn't KO many top 10 fighters?

Lol ... where on earth did you get that idea from? Tyson was known as a KO artist because he KO'd nearly everybody who got in the ring with him, and that was in world title fights!

Fighters get a reputation as world class punchers by KOing world class opponents. Ortiz has never done that, so there is no reason to even mention him in the same sentence as Mike Tyson while talking about one punch power.

[OPS]

Haye, just in case you're itching to return, just remember that you happen to fall in that "90%" you mentioned.

[landotter]

Usyk will do really well at HW. But until he actually steps up, who knows? It is true he is not a natural HW. But maybe he could get to the 220-230 range over a couple matches and training camps. So long as his technical skills do not diminish, that is a good fighting weight.

[_Rexy_]

Usyk is the most talented in the division bar none. Just going to depend on his chin.

I don’t see why it would matter if his power carried up, he won most fights by UD anyway