Just rewatched PAC vs. Thurman....PAC outclassed Thurman majorly

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #111
    Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
    because that's the truth!! but you always take it the wrong way since it's not what you wanna hear. did floyd beat manny? yes. did he outclassed/schooled manny? no, not in my opinion.

    thurman dropped in the 1st round (never done before), these are things to look for when you wanna use words like "outclassed", etc.


    maybe i missed it, but did manny ever predict knocking floyd out? or stopping him, or retiring him? or what the hell did manny even said before the fight of what he's gonna do to floyd?
    Of course not in your opinion because you are a Manny fan.

    Manny's punch out put was significantly reduced. His connect % was significantly lower than any of his other fights. He only won 3 rounds at best. This was over the course of the fight. The KD was a flash KD in round 1.

    Frankly, outclassing someone is what you do over the course of the whole fight, not a flash KD in 1 round. Thurman fought his way back into the fight and won 5 rounds.

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      #112
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Of course not in your opinion because you are a Manny fan.

      Manny's punch out put was significantly reduced. His connect % was significantly lower than any of his other fights. He only won 3 rounds at best. This was over the course of the fight. The KD was a flash KD in round 1.

      Frankly, outclassing someone is what you do over the course of the whole fight, not a flash KD in 1 round. Thurman fought his way back into the fight and won 5 rounds.
      And why if you are a fan of a fighter you cannot have an unbiased opinion ?

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        #113
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Of course not in your opinion because you are a Manny fan.

        Manny's punch out put was significantly reduced. His connect % was significantly lower than any of his other fights. He only won 3 rounds at best. This was over the course of the fight. The KD was a flash KD in round 1.

        Frankly, outclassing someone is what you do over the course of the whole fight, not a flash KD in 1 round. Thurman fought his way back into the fight and won 5 rounds.
        - -Meanwhile U fight U way into the dump.

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          #114
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Of course not in your opinion because you are a Manny fan.

          Manny's punch out put was significantly reduced. His connect % was significantly lower than any of his other fights. He only won 3 rounds at best. This was over the course of the fight. The KD was a flash KD in round 1. Frankly, outclassing someone is what you do over the course of the whole fight, not a flash KD in 1 round.
          im a manny fan nothing more nothing less. i dont go to the extreme like yall do with floyd. i have openly admit the stuff pac did wrong, the loss from pac, etc. BUT floyd did not outclassed or schooled manny. and i gave you my reasons as to why i feel this way but you are still here yapping about how im a manny fan, etc..

          like i said, can you bring up any meaningful instance from the fight? if floyd outclassed or schooled manny then you shouldnt have any problems bringing those up. i mean for crying out loud, the floyd fans dont even bring up this fight when trying to diss manny!!! instead, they bring up marquez ktfo06!!! so that right there should tell you all you need to know.

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            #115
            Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
            can you show me parts thru out the whole fight where floyd shines??? like was there a special round where floyd knocked manny down? or? these are things to look for when you wanna talk about outclassing, etc. you gotta be able to pull up instances in the fight where that fighter shines.
            He shined in every round because he made Manny ineffective. Manny had small flourishes in 2 rounds. Thats it.

            That is not what outclassing is. The definition of outclassing is being far superior. floyd was far superior. Manny had no answers after he ate the counters in round 1, other than a few flourishes in rounds 4 and 9.

            Was Manny far superior to Thurman? Thurman won 5 out of 12 rounds. I don't know if that is proving you are superior to the other guy.

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              #116
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Of course not in your opinion because you are a Manny fan.

              Manny's punch out put was significantly reduced. His connect % was significantly lower than any of his other fights. He only won 3 rounds at best. This was over the course of the fight. The KD was a flash KD in round 1.

              Frankly, outclassing someone is what you do over the course of the whole fight, not a flash KD in 1 round. Thurman fought his way back into the fight and won 5 rounds.

              pac's punch been reducing though... so this is nothing new. by the time pac fought floyd, he wasnt throwing 100+ punches per round anymore.

              now with thurman, i aint seen him dropped like that ever in the 1st round, flash kd or not.

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                #117
                Originally posted by j.razor
                No he didn't. I had Keith edging out the fight.
                Lol Pac really dominated that fight looked 2 classes above Thurman in every regard

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                  And why if you are a fan of a fighter you cannot have an unbiased opinion ?
                  I am going by the judges scores, not my opinion. Two judges scored the fight 116–112 and the other 118–110 for Floyd. Two judges had Manny winning 115-112 and the other 114-113.

                  Now, taking all of our personal opinions out of it, which scores look more like "outclassing":

                  1. 2 scores of 8-4 and 1 score of 10-2 or
                  2. 2 scores 7-5 and one score of 6-6?

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    He shined in every round because he made Manny ineffective. Manny had small flourishes in 2 rounds. Thats it.

                    That is not what outclassing is. The definition of outclassing is being far superior. floyd was far superior. Manny had no answers after he ate the counters in round 1, other than a few flourishes in rounds 4 and 9.

                    Was Manny far superior to Thurman? Thurman won 5 out of 12 rounds. I don't know if that is proving you are superior to the other guy.
                    so what were some parts in the fight that shows it? you cant just say he shines but then not provide anything to back it up.. like i said, im not arguing that floyd loss and that manny won... i think we are clear on that part already. i am here to say that floyd did not outclassed or schooled manny and i gave you my reasons, i just didnt say "he shines because he won"...

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                      pac's punch been reducing though... so this is nothing new. by the time pac fought floyd, he wasnt throwing 100+ punches per round anymore.

                      now with thurman, i aint seen him dropped like that ever in the 1st round, flash kd or not.
                      Not to mention working the body. He made Thurman take out his mouth piece to breathe and run away from Manny .

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