Just rewatched PAC vs. Thurman....PAC outclassed Thurman majorly

[PAC-BOY]

I am going by the judges scores, not my opinion. Two judges scored the fight 116–112 and the other 118–110 for Floyd. Two judges had Manny winning 115-112 and the other 114-113.

Now, taking all of our personal opinions out of it, which scores look more like "outclassing":

1. 2 scores of 8-4 and 1 score of 10-2 or
2. 2 scores 7-5 and one score of 6-6?

Have you ever seen a judge score a fight with a wide margin when it was a close fight? I have...alot.

Have you ever seen a robbery decision...I have.

So you judge a fight by what the judges put down? Thats how you tell if someone was outclassed or not? WoW! okay. Do you even watch the fights? Or just the cards and news?

[The Big Dunn]

im a manny fan nothing more nothing less. i dont go to the extreme like yall do with floyd. i have openly admit the stuff pac did wrong, the loss from pac, etc. BUT floyd did not outclassed or schooled manny. and i gave you my reasons as to why i feel this way but you are still here yapping about how im a manny fan, etc..

like i said, can you bring up any meaningful instance from the fight? if floyd outclassed or schooled manny then you shouldnt have any problems bringing those up. i mean for crying out loud, the floyd fans dont even bring up this fight when trying to diss manny!!! instead, they bring up marquez ktfo06!!! so that right there should tell you all you need to know.

How is being honest taking it to the extreme? Floyd fans aren't taking that fight to the extreme. Its just the manny fans and floyd haters are so unwilling to give him any credit that they downplay the win just because.

Like I told pac boy, take your opinion out of it and go with the judges scores.

He absolutely did outclass Manny and the scores back that assertion up.

Further, if you have any doubt watch the videos of Manny fans during that fight. Listen to Max and Lampley during the fight.

I did bring up stuff from the fight. The whole fight, not a quick flash KD.

pac's punch been reducing though... so this is nothing new. by the time pac fought floyd, he wasnt throwing 100+ punches per round anymore.

now with thurman, i aint seen him dropped like that ever in the 1st round, flash kd or not.

Manny threw the fewest amount of punches ever against Floyd. In subsequent fights Manny threw more punches then he did against Floyd.

Thurman got dropped, yes. That doesn't mean he was outclassed, that mean he got dropped.

JMM KO'd Manny and you and other Manny fans felt Manny was leading the fight and was about to KO JMM. He surely wasn't outclassing Manny because he won by KO.

[b Murphington]

I remember watching the fight, Pac was outboxing Thurman and landing good shots in the beginning portion of the match, along with the KD, but it didn’t look like Thurman was hurt by anything. Then I remember Thurman coming on in the second half of the fight, making the rounds seem closer. Then I remember, I forget which rd, where Pac lands a body punch that completely zapped Thurman of his energy and he completely turned off his offense. Thurman was doing well in this rd also. It was a complete momentum shift because Thurman was making it interesting up until this point. A lot of swing or close rounds towards the end, but it felt like Pac put away enough rounds at the start to comfortably win a competitive fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Have you ever seen a judge score a fight with a wide margin when it was a close fight? I have...alot.

Have you ever seen a robbery decision...I have.

So you judge a fight by what the judges put down? Thats how you tell if someone was outclassed or not? WoW! okay. Do you even watch the fights? Or just the cards and news?

LMFAO. This fight was neither a robbery nor bad judging. It was a thorough win that was never close.

I went with the judges scoring because you said I was biased. I posted lets take all of our personal opinions out of it and go with the judges. Now you complain about the judges scoring.

If you have Manny outclassing Thurman then you have to have Floyd outclassing Manny because he beat Manny by a wider margin and more clearly than Manny beat Thurman. In fact, one judge gave Thurman as many rounds as he gave Manny, manny winning because of the KD.

[QueensburyRules]

Not to mention working the body. He made Thurman take out his mouth piece to breathe and run away from Manny .

- -Keef young and dumb thought he could take it to Manny and ended up with the snot knocked out of him.

TUE 51-0 only fought Manny after hiring Justin who revealed Manny's bad shoulder.

End of this era, record shows that TUE backed off his reserved March 13, 2010 date at MGM.

Manny made the date against Clottey in the brand new Cowboy Stadium debut, another fighter ducked by TUE.

[PAC-BOY]

LMFAO. This fight was neither a robbery nor bad judging. It was a thorough win that was never close.

I went with the judges scoring because you said I was biased. I posted lets take all of our personal opinions out of it and go with the judges. Now you complain about the judges scoring.

If you have Manny outclassing Thurman then you have to have Floyd outclassing Manny because he beat Manny by a wider margin and more clearly than Manny beat Thurman. In fact, one judge gave Thurman as many rounds as he gave Manny, manny winning because of the KD.

Good god...the point flew right over your head. I saw Manny outclass Thruman. I saw Floyd do nothing spectacular. Or Manny for that fact. Ive seen better sparring sessions than Floyd Manny fight. If you want to think Floyd outclassed Manny because the Scorecards say so lol Okay. Im glad to know thats how you base your opinion. Explains why your intelligence level in the sport of Boxing is low. I understand now.

[PAC-BOY]

- -Keef young and dumb thought he could take it to Manny and ended up with the snot knocked out of him.

TUE 51-0 only fought Manny after hiring Justin who revealed Manny's bad shoulder.

End of this era, record shows that TUE backed off his reserved March 13, 2010 date at MGM.

Manny made the date against Clottey in the brand new Cowboy Stadium debut, another fighter ducked by TUE.

facts..............

[QueensburyRules]

How is being honest taking it to the extreme? Floyd fans aren't taking that fight to the extreme. Its just the manny fans and floyd haters are so unwilling to give him any credit that they downplay the win just because.

Like I told pac boy, take your opinion out of it and go with the judges scores.

He absolutely did outclass Manny and the scores back that assertion up.

Further, if you have any doubt watch the videos of Manny fans during that fight. Listen to Max and Lampley during the fight.

I did bring up stuff from the fight. The whole fight, not a quick 1 sex flash KD.



Manny threw the fewest amount of punches ever against Floyd. In subsequent fights Manny threw more punches then he did against Floyd.

Thurman got dropped, yes. That doesn't mean he was outclassed, that mean he got dropped.

JMM KO'd Manny and you and other Manny fans felt Manny was leading the fight and was about to KO JMM. He surely wasn't outclassing Manny because he won by KO.

- -JMM won because he was on BALCO vitamins.

We also know why TUE 51-0 won.

We also know why U get beat up so often.

[IceTrayDaGang]

How is being honest taking it to the extreme? Floyd fans aren't taking that fight to the extreme. Its just the manny fans and floyd haters are so unwilling to give him any credit that they downplay the win just because.

Like I told pac boy, take your opinion out of it and go with the judges scores.

He absolutely did outclass Manny and the scores back that assertion up.

Further, if you have any doubt watch the videos of Manny fans during that fight. Listen to Max and Lampley during the fight.

I did bring up stuff from the fight. The whole fight, not a quick 1 sex flash KD.



Manny threw the fewest amount of punches ever against Floyd. In subsequent fights Manny threw more punches then he did against Floyd.

Thurman got dropped, yes. That doesn't mean he was outclassed, that mean he got dropped.

JMM KO'd Manny and you and other Manny fans felt Manny was leading the fight and was about to KO JMM. He surely wasn't outclassing Manny because he won by KO.

a 41 year old fading pac beating thurman. yes, he got outclassed. whether you like it or not. shhiet like that wasnt suppose to happen.

and yes, you're taking it to the extreme... look at you. on here going back and forth just because i said floyd didnt outclass manny... i didnt say floyd loss to manny.. no, i said floyd didnt outclass manny, and that didnt go good with you so here we are now, 4 pages later, arguing over this.

YES, you're taking it to the extreme!!! you want everything your way or the poster is wrong. that's taking it to the extreme lol. when you block everything out and just your view, then yes, you're taking it to the extreme!

[The Big Dunn]

Good god...the point flew right over your head. I saw Manny outclass Thruman. I saw Floyd do nothing spectacular. Or Manny for that fact. Ive seen better sparring sessions than Floyd Manny fight. If you want to think Floyd outclassed Manny because the Scorecards say so lol Okay. Im glad to know thats how you base your opinion. Explains why your intelligence level in the sport of Boxing is low. I understand now.

How could you see Manny outclass Thurman in a fight Thurman won 5-6 rounds? Outclassing, by definition, is proving you are far superior. Manny beat Thurman but did he prove he was far superior.

I only use the scorecards to take personal bias out of it. I watched the fight like you did and at no point did you think Manny was even in the fight. Once he ate the counter straight right in the 1st his whole gameplan went out the window.

When you can make a man abandon his gameplan that early and do that the whole fight, I think its fair to say you outclassed him.