Just rewatched PAC vs. Thurman....PAC outclassed Thurman majorly

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  • HewJohnson
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    #101
    PAC completely outclassed Thurman.

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      #102
      He put the mitts on the guy to beat at 147. Much respect

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        #103
        The perception of Manny fans is interesting.

        They will post that Manny outclassed Thurman in a fight most had Manny winning 7-5 and a KD. Yet if someone posts Floyd outclassed Manny, they will argue otherwise even though Floyd won 10-2 or 9-3.

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          #104
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          The perception of Manny fans is interesting.

          They will post that Manny outclassed Thurman in a fight most had Manny winning 7-5 and a KD. Yet if someone posts Floyd outclassed Manny, they will argue otherwise even though Floyd won 10-2 or 9-3.
          it's how the "outclassing" is done.. floyd fans like to run around with the narrative that floyd "schooled" manny. the truth is, floyd fought a scared fight to win on points! and there's nothing wrong with that!!! BUT that's not "outclassing" or "schooling" in my opinion... that's called fighting a smart and safe fight.

          where as for manny, pac took it to the young lion who said he was gonna stop and retire manny. pac dropped him in the 1st and also made him ran around the whole ring in the 10th... this is what people remember when they think of this fight. that's where the "outclassed" comes in. thurman wasnt able and couldnt do what he said he was gonna do. he got "outclassed"...

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            #105
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            The perception of Manny fans is interesting.

            They will post that Manny outclassed Thurman in a fight most had Manny winning 7-5 and a KD. Yet if someone posts Floyd outclassed Manny, they will argue otherwise even though Floyd won 10-2 or 9-3.
            Floyd won Manny 7-5 at the most. Floyd really didn’t do anything dude. Pillow jabs here and there, absolutely no action.

            When I think about that fight, I can’t recall Floyd landing anything significant besides that one picture people always use when Floyd is landing a punch on Manny’s front shoulder. Lmao.

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              #106
              Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
              it's how the "outclassing" is done.. floyd fans like to run around with the narrative that floyd "schooled" manny. the truth is, floyd fought a scared fight to win on points! and there's nothing wrong with that!!! BUT that's not "outclassing" or "schooling" in my opinion... that's called fighting a smart and safe fight.

              where as for manny, pac took it to the young lion who said he was gonna stop and retire manny. pac dropped him in the 1st and also made him ran around the whole ring in the 10th... this is what people remember when they think of this fight. that's where the "outclassed" comes in. thurman wasnt able and couldnt do what he said he was gonna do. he got "outclassed"...


              Also remember PAC is 41 years old while Thurman is 30 and undefeated.

              PAC knew the moves to make against Thurman to beat him to the punch each time and prevent Thurman from capitalizing on any punches he threw. Manny simply had a better game plan and had more memorable punches in bunches which overwhelmed and flustered Thurman.
              He outclassed him.

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                #107
                Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang
                it's how the "outclassing" is done.. floyd fans like to run around with the narrative that floyd "schooled" manny. the truth is, floyd fought a scared fight to win on points! and there's nothing wrong with that!!! BUT that's not "outclassing" or "schooling" in my opinion... that's called fighting a smart and safe fight.

                where as for manny, pac took it to the young lion who said he was gonna stop and retire manny. pac dropped him in the 1st and also made him ran around the whole ring in the 10th... this is what people remember when they think of this fight. that's where the "outclassed" comes in. thurman wasnt able and couldnt do what he said he was gonna do. he got "outclassed"...
                See what I mean? Floyd wins 10-2 or 9-3 and you define it as fighting "scared" and not outclassing him or schooling him. That defies logic. He completely neutered Manny's offense from the very 1st right hand counter he threw.

                Manny couldn't do what he said he was going to do either. SO again, if Thurman was outclassed, Manny had to be as well.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by HewJohnson
                  Floyd won Manny 7-5 at the most. Floyd really didn’t do anything dude. Pillow jabs here and there, absolutely no action.

                  When I think about that fight, I can’t recall Floyd landing anything significant besides that one picture people always use when Floyd is landing a punch on Manny’s front shoulder. Lmao.
                  There was not one judges score that was that close. He reduced Manny's punch output significantly with his counter punching early and his movement throughout. You call them "pillow" jabs but they forced Manny to stop punching, so perhaps your opinion on them is wrong.

                  You don't need to recall a single punch. That doesn't change the fact Floyd dominated the fight.

                  Outclassing can happen in multiple ways. You talk about Manny outclassing Thurman with his offense. OK. Well Floyd beat Manny by a wider margin than Manny beat Thurman using primarily his defense.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    See what I mean? Floyd wins 10-2 or 9-3 and you define it as fighting "scared" and not outclassing him or schooling him. That defies logic. He completely neutered Manny's offense from the very 1st right hand counter he threw.

                    Manny couldn't do what he said he was going to do either. SO again, if Thurman was outclassed, Manny had to be as well.
                    because that's the truth!! but you always take it the wrong way since it's not what you wanna hear. did floyd beat manny? yes. did he outclassed/schooled manny? no, not in my opinion.

                    thurman dropped in the 1st round (never done before), these are things to look for when you wanna use words like "outclassed", etc.


                    maybe i missed it, but did manny ever predict knocking floyd out? or stopping him, or retiring him? or what the hell did manny even said before the fight of what he's gonna do to floyd?

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      See what I mean? Floyd wins 10-2 or 9-3 and you define it as fighting "scared" and not outclassing him or schooling him. That defies logic. He completely neutered Manny's offense from the very 1st right hand counter he threw.

                      Manny couldn't do what he said he was going to do either. SO again, if Thurman was outclassed, Manny had to be as well.
                      can you show me parts thru out the whole fight where floyd shines??? like was there a special round where floyd knocked manny down? or? these are things to look for when you wanna talk about outclassing, etc. you gotta be able to pull up instances in the fight where that fighter shines.

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