Golovkin under Banks - what did we learn?

[chirorickyp]

I think Banks stinks and is a ****** person and a lousy trainer and GGG should get a new better trainer. Banks seemed to blame GGG for not doing better by following his instructions. Worst yet he goes public praising the hell out of Dervy and trashing his own boxer. He said the score should have been closer and damn near said he thought Dervy won. It's OK for him to think that but he should keep those thoughts to himself. A good trainer supports his boxer and never goes public saying he thinks his boxer lost or came close to losing. He always says his boxer did well and deserved the win by the amount he won or more even if he doesn't really believe it. I have never heard a trainer praise the other boxer so much and say his fighter fought poorly and should not have won by the amount he did and maybe even should have lost. Never. GGG should fires this guy now. He doesn't need to pay a trainer to tell the world he is no good and just lost a fight he won.

I was stunned at Banks' comments. He praised Dervy more when his own guy made it hell for Dervy too. Banks did nothing during the fight. He needs to go. Accurate analysis of technique, power and adjustments. Banks adds nothing and added nothing.

[TonyGe]

Can't teach a old dog new tricks

GGG is what he is, it is laughable to try and change him and his style at 37 years old and this far in his career. Not a fan of Abel Sanchez, I think he is extremely overrated as a trainer BUT GGG looked better with him. Nothing against Johnathan Banks, very good trainer being a former fighter himself and working with and under the Great Emmanuel Steward. However, he is getting at 37 year old coming off of tough fights vs Jacobs and twice vs Canelo.

Trainers are just that TRAINERS, not Miracle Workers!

He's expecting too much. List of things he wants to accomplish.
1. Always fight going forward.
2. Throw combinations.
3. Increase your frequency of jabs.
4. Bob and weave and be conscious of your defense.
5 increase your pace and pressure.

I don't know if Golovkin was expected to do all these things but the man is 37. Increasing the pace could backfire if his legs are gone and as far as the others on the list old habits die hard. These things are great but trying to do all of them against a dangerous opponent like Derev didn't work. Plus Golovkin was apparently sick. I thought he lost that fight if you look at it over all. Fights are won by rounds and I had him losing by rounds won also. Some vere very close so.....

He should just concentrate on one or two things for now. Body work and his jabs.

I like what Banks is trying to accomplish but take baby steps.

[BLASTER1]

I really dislike Banks as his trainer.
All this nonsense about fighting till he's 65 and fighting Canelo at a very old age.
I mean WTF is he talking about.
The guy is a bit brain damaged imho.
GGG needs to get rid of him ASAP.

[xhiddenx87]

Cant teach him nothing? Maybe, but at least give him some useful advice, the dude didnt even tried to do it.
Didnt like it. And I dont see GGG changing him. 2 or 3 more wars and thats it guys.

[Blond Beast]

Just like Andre Ward for example, didn't have the physical abilities of some of the past greats but he took some stuff out of Mayweather and B-Hop's book, he knew how to position himself in close, left shoulder under his opponent's chin whilst tying up their left arm and working short uppercuts to the mid section, that stuff accumulates. We look at these punches and think nothing of them because we're so used to reacting to hard punches and half the time commentators get it wrong because that stuff gets blocked a lot and so the one tiring is the guy throwing the shot.

Those short shots inside that go unnoticed, fighters need to develop that. By the way, Duran was definitely the master at that and greatest inside operator I've ever seen. Add Pernell Whitaker on to that list, for as great of a boxer he was he was also an exceptional inside fighter.

I was surprised at how slick Duran was in sum of his fights. He could really slip punches in that pocket at his best. He moved up so high in weight, and had that smooth physique, u don’t really expect it. I love Trinidad but when his plan A didn’t work his plan B is to refer to plan A. That’s what I see in GGG, it worked for a long time, but now the cost is much higher. I just imagine Papa Trinidad in GGGs corner “Good. Just keep doing what ur doing but now do it better.”

[anonymous2.0]

I don't like how Banks's comments about Chenko and the fight. I dunno if he was asked specifically about Chenko's performance or if he brought it up himself but to me it sounded like (A) Banks doesn't give a **** and isn't invested in GGG 100% or (B) Banks is incredibly naive to think public comments like this won't bite him in the ass and tense up his and GGG's work relationship.

Manny used to be able to light a fire in his fighters and so far we haven't seen Banks do that with GGG or Wlad

['b']

You can't teach an old dog new tricks. GGG has regressed - Abel sucks as a tactician but at least he is one of the best conditioning trainers in all of boxing.

GGG ain't slick and he never will be. He should focus on power and conditioning - Banks will be his ruin, he's delusional. Abel is imo the best trainer GGG could have - he just needs someone else telling him what to do in the ring.

[anonymous2.0]

Moral of the story is you get what you pay for lmao

[OCPancho]

I think at his age, he's overtraining . Needs to rest more .
Or he's just shot now.

[Vodkaholic]

Golovkin fights on instincts. After almost 400 amateur/pro fights, he isn't learning anything new. He selected a budget coach because he he needed a yes-man to hold the spit bucket. If he really wanted to improve his form or have someone actually coach him in the corner, he would have selected someone like Roach, Atlas, McGirt, Diaz, etc.

On point as always