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  • #11
    Opinions aside, the record shows Golovkin drew and lost in his two fights with canelo. Canelo has made it plain, for whatever reasons, that he doesn't want or see any need to fight Golovkin again. If Golovkin really wants to "force" a third fight he needs a big win tonight then something "big" to follow it like stepping up and winning a title at 168 or beating Andrade and looking for a unification with canelo at 160. Anything less than something along those lines, it might be 2021 before Alvarez considers him again.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
      I guess...seems like he just felt GGG won both imo.

      Tbh I can't really see how anyone can score either fight for Nelo unless you just ignore a lot of GGG's work.
      derevyachenko did in the second fight, as well as most trainers and boxers... but eith, most keyboard warriors had ggg wining...

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
        may want to take a gander at the press row scorecards for the 2nd fight. Highly doubt that press row would be considered ggg worshipers. Canelo won a controversial decision where he was 1 round away from a majority draw. Stop acting as if it was some dominant performance that cleared up any doubt. 28 yr old Canelo struggled with 36 yr old ggg no matter how you slice it. https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/c...cards.3826867/
        Don't forget there was no ringside press row for the fight because Oscar wanted to sell those seats. The media was mad at him and watched from seats way back, probably giving them an anti-canelo bias lol and also poor vantage point for Canelo's body work

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        • #14
          Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy View Post
          Derevyanchenko just said Canelo won the second no controversy is just you 97K GGGroupies trying to convince yourselves that GGG won the rematch.
          Yeah as I said when I watch both I just don't see how anyone can score either for Nelo, and not as clear Ws for GGG, unless you just ignore a lot of GGG's work.

          I think SD is just trying to be neutral there...as he is fighting GGG so showing respect to him, but also wants the Canelo fight, so will try and show respect to him too...it is also easier for a 3rd party like SD to say 'both guys lost' in the sense that he can view them both as losers, and will probably help him to feel superior to them.

          If he said GGG won both, he is kind of elevating GGG over himself, and mentally he wouldn't want to do that.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by icha View Post
            derevyachenko did in the second fight, as well as most trainers and boxers... but eith, most keyboard warriors had ggg wining...
            Yeah idk man we all have our own views I guess...just watching both fights again last night, can't see how anyone shades either one to Nelo unless they are ignoring most of GGG's work.

            As I said about SD, he has a reason to say both lost...so I wouldn't read too much into that.

            If someone neutral out there really felt Nelo won fight 2, then that's cool...I just personally can't see it when I watch the fight.

            I think most people immediately after the fight said GGG won as well...not that that really matters...but since you were trying to argue that point I figured I would throw it out there that right after the fight it seemed like over 50% of those who watched had GGG winning.

            Nelo did well in spots...but unless you give bonus points to him/don't score shots for GGG, I just don't see Nelo getting close to 7 rounds.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
              I guess...seems like he just felt GGG won both imo.

              Tbh I can't really see how anyone can score either fight for Nelo unless you just ignore a lot of GGG's work.
              First fight I give GGG, 2nd to my liking was mostly Canelo. It was close both times. Just saying from friends and associates they all assume the same.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by tokon View Post
                Opinions aside, the record shows Golovkin drew and lost in his two fights with canelo. Canelo has made it plain, for whatever reasons, that he doesn't want or see any need to fight Golovkin again. If Golovkin really wants to "force" a third fight he needs a big win tonight then something "big" to follow it like stepping up and winning a title at 168 or beating Andrade and looking for a unification with canelo at 160. Anything less than something along those lines, it might be 2021 before Alvarez considers him again.
                I think you could argue, that like Hagler and SRL, signs of slippage from GGG would probably precipitate Nelo taking the 3rd fight sooner, rather than GGG looking great.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                  may want to take a gander at the press row scorecards for the 2nd fight. Highly doubt that press row would be considered ggg worshipers. Canelo won a controversial decision where he was 1 round away from a majority draw. Stop acting as if it was some dominant performance that cleared up any doubt. 28 yr old Canelo struggled with 36 yr old ggg no matter how you slice it. https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/c...cards.3826867/
                  Only thing that struggled that night was the ability of gggs face being intact...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
                    I guess...seems like he just felt GGG won both imo.

                    Tbh I can't really see how anyone can score either fight for Nelo unless you just ignore a lot of GGG's MISSES.
                    Fixed it for you! GGG aka Helen Keller missed over a 1,000 punches???

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Robi13 View Post
                      Only thing that struggled that night was the ability of gggs face being intact...
                      Or argue when the boxer RUNS out of the ring CRYING and their OWN trainer says "Good Job Judges"...

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