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  • #91
    wrong , GGG your biggest win was haircut lemmy.

    never mind facing atgs and elites, GGG hasnt beaten a decent titlist yet.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
      No. Duran was a blown up light weight. Hagler was washed. Hearns is the only one. I dont think much of Benitez.

      You bring up Castillo knowing that Floyd had a torn rotator cuff. Yet you still bring it up anyways. Did you think I wouldnt point that out? Had an instant rematch and dominated him. Floyd only looked bad when he was washed, after the Canelo fight.

      See when SRL got old, he got sloppy. When Floyd got old, he got better, with less KO's. When he got washed, he ran, hugged, and clinched. Thats what separates him from the rest. He still wins.

      I didnt quite say he beats SRL because he beat Ghost and Ortiz. I pointed out the circumstantial disadvantages; Him being old and undersized, while they were young and too big for him. Had he have won, it would've still been impressive. But he dominated.

      I feel Floyd running, hugging, doing the bare minimum, no one in history can beat him. Your only shot, is him coming to the center of the ring like he did when he was at his best. But if you dont win, you will get embarrassed.

      Against Floyd, either he simply wins, or he dominates you, its no other option.

      Ortiz and Chino went back and forth and that was way before he went up to welterweight and became the #2 fighter in the division.

      I never said SRL couldnt beat Ortiz. I said what you already agreed on; SRL would get his azzwhipped if he was 34yrs old facing a man who was 24yrs old and 15lbs bigger.

      But then again, you know exactly what I said.

      I noted, that I dont think SRL has as much nuts as Floyd. I cant see him being that age, facing opponents of similar circumstantial disadvantages. Ali is the only one with more courage than Floyd.
      Floyd was in his prime when he went to war with Augustus and Corley, who are not great fighters. I’m not faulting Floyd for it, just pointing out he didn’t “embarrass” or “whitewash” everyone.

      If Duran was a “blown up lw”, what is Robert Guerrero? A blown up fw. “15 pounds bigger doe”. Not to mention, Guerrero was 30 when he faced Floyd, not in his 20’s like you’re going on about. Not sure why you brought that up anyway, mayweather was widely criticized for taking that fight.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
        Ortiz is a good fighter but not great. I don't know why you bring his name up. You are undermining your own argument.
        1. This is not a response to what I asked. We say he aint that good right? Which I totally disagree with, because he was a monster at 47 against Berto. Floyd just ruined him. But I asked has SRR faced an opponent like him? Which would've been his toughest fight tbh.

        2. I feel Ortiz was a top notch opponent, but thats besides the point. The circumstantial disadvantages Floyd was at; He was 34yrs old and 150lbs. Ortiz was 24yrs old and 164lbs.

        I didnt really ask if SRL could beat Ortiz. I was asking could SRL beat ANY opponent at thost disadvantages? That age and weight disparity, and the answer is NO!

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
          Floyd was in his prime when he went to war with Augustus and Corley, who are not great fighters. I’m not faulting Floyd for it, just pointing out he didn’t “embarrass” or “whitewash” everyone.

          If Duran was a “blown up lw”, what is Robert Guerrero? A blown up fw. “15 pounds bigger doe”. Not to mention, Guerrero was 30 when he faced Floyd, not in his 20’s like you’re going on about. Not sure why you brought that up anyway, mayweather was widely criticized for taking that fight.
          But Floyd HUMILIATED fighters greater than the fighters he had bad nights against. Your going to have bad nights. But when SRL has a bad night, he loses. When Floyd has a bad nights, he just gets hit once or twice. For me, he even humiliated both of those men.

          Ghost actually went to welterweight, and dominated big punchers at the weight class. He dominated Selkic Aaydin who no one wanted to face, and Berto who is a big puncher and had only suffered one lost. You act like he went up and weight, looked bad, and then Floyd faced him. He earned his victory and was actually more natural at that weight than the others.

          He was in his prime, 30yrs old, 160lbs. Floyd was 36yrs old and 148lbs! This is CRAZY how dominant Floyd was!

          Duran went up in weight, didnt prove him self, and we all knew he was too small for SRL. But SRL always calculates who he faces!

          Floyd was never criticized for any fight in recent years, except the Berto fight. Ghost was a legit opponent who earned his fight just like all those other big ass young guys he faced!

          Imagine SRL 36yrs old, facing a guy who was 30yrs old and 12lbs bigger. He'd die in the ring! With Floyd its "Just another easy fight for Floyd" Lol

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          • #95
            Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Has Ray Robinson faced one opponent as good as Ortiz? Nope Lol
            Has Ray Robinson faced one opponent as good as Ortiz? Nope Lol

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
              Floyd was in his prime when he went to war with Augustus and Corley, who are not great fighters. I’m not faulting Floyd for it, just pointing out he didn’t “embarrass” or “whitewash” everyone.

              If Duran was a “blown up lw”, what is Robert Guerrero? A blown up fw. “15 pounds bigger doe”. Not to mention, Guerrero was 30 when he faced Floyd, not in his 20’s like you’re going on about. Not sure why you brought that up anyway, mayweather was widely criticized for taking that fight.
              Look at all these great fighters Canelo is beating. Mayweather walked him down without getting grazed by a single punch! This man was freaking 37yrs old and 15lbs lighter. Canelo was freaking 23!

              Amazing, isnt it?

              WOW!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                Floyd was in his prime when he went to war with Augustus and Corley, who are not great fighters. I’m not faulting Floyd for it, just pointing out he didn’t “embarrass” or “whitewash” everyone.

                If Duran was a “blown up lw”, what is Robert Guerrero? A blown up fw. “15 pounds bigger doe”. Not to mention, Guerrero was 30 when he faced Floyd, not in his 20’s like you’re going on about. Not sure why you brought that up anyway, mayweather was widely criticized for taking that fight.
                I know you troll and just wont ever really give props to this man that completely just outdid everyone else we have ever seen, but I know, you understand the truth.

                But before having a conversation with me, you were one of these guys who nitpick Floyd, and "This guy too old, that guy too green" and all the silliness.

                The way I presented my case, kind of took the steam out of that stuff, because when you do that to him, we have to do it to everyone. And when we do it to EVERYONE ELSE, Floyd's legacy shyts on all of them.

                I know you got allot of pride, and you dont want to heed to what we seen in this man, but all that does is hurt the sport.

                Imagine that this took place in our era, and it went underappreciated. People been nitpicking everything he does, and this entire time he was really OVERACHIEVING. Like he was supposed to win a few belts, lose somewhere as a youngster, get washed up at 30, train less, then retire with a few losses.

                He wasnt supposed to take it this far. I feel its bad for the sport, that it didnt get the proper treatment it deserved because it will never happen again.

                Loma, Crawford, and the rest WONT outdo Floyd, watch and see!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                  But Floyd HUMILIATED fighters greater than the fighters he had bad nights against. Your going to have bad nights. But when SRL has a bad night, he loses. When Floyd has a bad nights, he just gets hit once or twice. For me, he even humiliated both of those men.

                  Ghost actually went to welterweight, and dominated big punchers at the weight class. He dominated Selkic Aaydin who no one wanted to face, and Berto who is a big puncher and had only suffered one lost. You act like he went up and weight, looked bad, and then Floyd faced him. He earned his victory and was actually more natural at that weight than the others.

                  He was in his prime, 30yrs old, 160lbs. Floyd was 36yrs old and 148lbs! This is CRAZY how dominant Floyd was!

                  Duran went up in weight, didnt prove him self, and we all knew he was too small for SRL. But SRL always calculates who he faces!

                  Floyd was never criticized for any fight in recent years, except the Berto fight. Ghost was a legit opponent who earned his fight just like all those other big ass young guys he faced!

                  Imagine SRL 36yrs old, facing a guy who was 30yrs old and 12lbs bigger. He'd die in the ring! With Floyd its "Just another easy fight for Floyd" Lol
                  So you’re talking about how good Guerrero was cuz he beat berto, but saying Duran didn’t prove himself when he moved up? Lol...you’re officially out to lunch. Duran is a bonafide atg...Guerrero...lol.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                    I know you troll and just wont ever really give props to this man that completely just outdid everyone else we have ever seen, but I know, you understand the truth.

                    But before having a conversation with me, you were one of these guys who nitpick Floyd, and "This guy too old, that guy too green" and all the silliness.

                    The way I presented my case, kind of took the steam out of that stuff, because when you do that to him, we have to do it to everyone. And when we do it to EVERYONE ELSE, Floyd's legacy shyts on all of them.

                    I know you got allot of pride, and you dont want to heed to what we seen in this man, but all that does is hurt the sport.

                    Imagine that this took place in our era, and it went underappreciated. People been nitpicking everything he does, and this entire time he was really OVERACHIEVING. Like he was supposed to win a few belts, lose somewhere as a youngster, get washed up at 30, train less, then retire with a few losses.

                    He wasnt supposed to take it this far. I feel its bad for the sport, that it didnt get the proper treatment it deserved because it will never happen again.

                    Loma, Crawford, and the rest WONT outdo Floyd, watch and see!
                    Just like the bulk of the rest of your posts, that was a whole lot of words to say basically nothing.

                    At the end of the day, Floyd never faced the level of competition those guys did. He lasted longer and has a pretty damn impressive legacy, especially given the money he made.

                    All this talk of who’s better is useless when these guys can never face each other...but the starting point for that convo should begin with, who did they beat, and under what context?

                    If you insist Floyd beating past prime names when he was also past it, is better than Leonard beating prime hofers and atg’s, that’s your business. If you wanna say the canelo win was better, ok. But was canelo more accomplished than Benitez/Duran/hearns/hagler at that point? There’s no doubt canelo has improved a lot, but that’s not the version that Floyd fought...at a cw.

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                    • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                      1. This is not a response to what I asked. We say he aint that good right? Which I totally disagree with, because he was a monster at 47 against Berto. Floyd just ruined him. But I asked has SRR faced an opponent like him? Which would've been his toughest fight tbh.

                      2. I feel Ortiz was a top notch opponent, but thats besides the point. The circumstantial disadvantages Floyd was at; He was 34yrs old and 150lbs. Ortiz was 24yrs old and 164lbs.

                      I didnt really ask if SRL could beat Ortiz. I was asking could SRL beat ANY opponent at thost disadvantages? That age and weight disparity, and the answer is NO!
                      Really?? You can't say no unless you take everything into account. SRR had an unbeaten streak of 92 fights. That's almost double the total number of fights Mayweather had in his entire career! He had a total of 174 fights in his career. That is a lot of wear and tear. Your comparison although it looks good on paper is full of holes. Get back to us after Mayweather reaches 174 fights.

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