the REAL poll asking... why I hate Golovkin...

[Citizen Koba]

you need to get BOTH feet in the real world and stop making excuses

this was the bottom line of an article back in 2016...

"Whatever you think of Golovkin the fighter, there is a serious mismatch here between his team’s words and their deeds"

https://www.thefightcity.com/golovkin-vs-ward-gennady-golovkin-andre-ward-kovalev-boxing/

it has been obvious for years

the guys who noticed, voted accordingly... but you guys have chosen not to notice, for some bizarre reason

bizarre

whatever

all I have ever done, is point out whenever Golovkin could have made a big fight, but CHOSE not to... the problem for you is, there has been so many... they are piling up

I can see why you are sick and tired of me pointing out how silly you guys are for pretending like it never happened... over and over again lol

Yeah. Cos in the normal world people spend hundreds of hours of their lives trying to convince people that they should be calling a sportsman silly names, right. Get a grip man... this whole forum is a bubble of weirdness and you're one of the crazier denizens in it.

We could sit down and discuss the reasons for Golovkin's choice of fights if you wanted and sure I'd prefer if he'd been more daring especially in the latter part of his career as I've already said many times, but honestly I really don't care enough and we both know that your purpose isn't to debate but to come on here and call people names for hours of each day for whatever fulfillment that gives ya.

Honestly I'm already regretting wasting the 20 minutes or so that I already did indulging your weirdness man..,. guess it's back on ignore with ya.

[Robi13]

Lmfao.

So pathetic you couldnt even say yes or no. Way to talk your way around the point like a shady politician who's full of s.hit.

Why do you guys keep talking like you're the majority? You arent.

Lmao, you didn’t ask “yes or no” you said “true or false” dumbass, and yes canelo has more fans then ggg so we are the majority and majority says you ggg fans are idiots

[Robi13]

Course I ain't denying it. I think he's a excellent fighter who didn't live up to his full potential for a variety of reasons. I think he got some bad luck with his promoter and didn't get the opportunities he could have done in the early part of his career and passed on some good fights in order to get more money in the later part of his career... nothing more, nothing less.

I ain't seeing much in that narrative to explain to me the level of vitriol the guy receives, but then I didn't understand the hate on Floyd or Manny either...

I think y'all just a bit creepy with your obsessions over these guys, man. Dudes sat behind their keyboard calling any professional fighter a puzzy or a coward or whatever probably need to get out a bit more, way I see it.

It’s not really anything against ggg or any fighter the beef usually stems from what their dumb phuck fans say

[Robi13]

Yeah. Cos in the normal world people spend hundreds of hours of their lives trying to convince people that they should be calling a sportsman silly names, right. Get a grip man... this whole forum is a bubble of weirdness and you're one of the crazier denizens in it.

We could sit down and discuss the reasons for Golovkin's choice of fights if you wanted and sure I'd prefer if he'd been more daring especially in the latter part of his career as I've already said many times, but honestly I really don't care enough and we both know that your purpose isn't to debate but to come on here and call people names for hours of each day for whatever fulfillment that gives ya.

Honestly I'm already regretting wasting the 20 minutes or so that I already did indulging your weirdness man..,. guess it's back on ignore with ya.

You call him weird for telling the truth but it’s more weird to defend that fake ggg.. lol you are doing the same amount of writing as him difference is the he is telling you facts while you’re in denial, what’s more weird? Weirdo

[The Big Dunn]

I don't like any goodie 2 shoes boxers. Hated SRL. Hated Manny. Hated ODH. Hate GGG. I also felt he was pushed to the moon despite only beating mediocre bums.

I just don't see what the big deal is if you don't like GGG. There are some posters that get so upset and mad when a poster doesn't like GGG or criticizes him. Is there a rule he has to be liked by everyone?

[Citizen Koba]

You call him weird for telling the truth but it’s more weird yo seems that fake ggg.. lol you are doing the same amount o writing as him difference is the he is telling you facts while you’re in denial, what’s more weird? Weirdo

Truth ain't the same to everyone, man. I've been deeply critical of Golovkin over the last few years for concentrating too heavily on chasing the Canelo money fights, even though I perfectly understand why he did it. I would have like to see him face Saunders, Lara, Ward, Charlo, BooBoo... even though in the real world it's doubtful given the frequency dudes fight (and the bullchit politics) that more than one or two of these could have ever happened, and the vast majority of fighters even good ones are more con****uous for the fights that didn't happen than those that did.


Ain't calling him weird for not liking Golovkin man, I'm calling him weird for - over 3 years and literally thousands of posts talking about almost nothing else - insisting that it ain't enough to merely criticise Golovkin but that unless you call him the most abject of cowards you're some kind of gullible superfan. I don't call other fighters names either, and lots of fighters don't get the best fights - and many don't have more than one or two decent fights in a whole career - in fact that's the norm rather than the exception, but I don't see anyone spending thousands of hours dedicating their lives to getting people to dislike 'em. That's what's weird.

If you'd like to discuss the reasons why fights get made or not in a mature fashion I'm always willing and open to discussion, but honestly I ain't really gonna waste my time talking to you if you're just one of those dudes who comes on here to trade insults and talk smack about fighters. Just ain't my thing, man.

[Robi13]

Truth ain't the same to everyone, man. I've been deeply critical of Golovkin over the last few years for concentrating too heavily on chasing the Canelo money fights, even though I perfectly understand why he did it. I would have like to see him face Saunders, Lara, Ward, Charlo, BooBoo... even though in the real world it's doubtful given the frequency dudes fight (and the bullchit politics) that more than one or two of these could have ever happened, and the vast majority of fighters even good ones are more con****uous for the fights that didn't happen than those that did.


Ain't calling him weird for not liking Golovkin man, I'm calling him weird for - over 3 years and literally thousands of posts talking about almost nothing else - insisting that it ain't enough to merely criticise Golovkin but that unless you call him the most abject of cowards you're some kind of gullible superfan. I don't call other fighters names either, and lots of fighters don't get the best fights - and many don't have more than one or two decent fights in a whole career - in fact that's the norm rather than the exception, but I don't see anyone spending thousands of hours dedicating their lives to getting people to dislike 'em. That's what's weird.

If you'd like to discuss the reasons why fights get made or not in a mature fashion I'm always willing and open to discussion, but honestly I ain't really gonna waste my time talking to you if you're just one of those dudes who comes on here to trade insults and talk smack about fighters. Just ain't my thing, man.

It’s not about the fights that got made or not, it’s more the media narrative that ggg is this good boy, this legacy chaser, this knockout artist... those are all false. That’s the issue, it’s nothing against him personally as none of us know him like that but based on what has been said and what has been done... it’s like night and day with his career... what the media tells his fans, and what he actually does is night and day. That’s the issue, that his fans believe the hype that is nonexistent

[Citizen Koba]

It’s not about the fights that got made or not, it’s more the media narrative that ggg is this good boy, this legacy chaser, this knockout artist... those are all false. That’s the issue, it’s nothing against him personally as none of us know him like that but based on what has been said and what has been done... it’s like night and day with his career... what the media tells his fans, and what he actually does is night and day. That’s the issue, that his fans believe the hype that is nonexistent

I've always just thought he was a very good fighter and I was following the dude back before all the bullchit and the hype started. The reality is obviously something of a mix guess... course HBO hyped the dude up, that's exactly how they made money and got people interested, pretty much their job in fact. To sell their product. If that ish gets people upset I really don't know what to tell 'em. They get upset when their new brand of deodorant doesn't have hoards of chicks chasing after them with their **** out too?

What else am I gonna say... obviously he is a heavy handed dude and a very good fighter but I never thought he was some unbeatable machine, though I can't speak for the beliefs of others. The whole 154 - 168 thing - I don't really get the issue. Every damn fighter on earth is open to offers from the adjacent divisions - providing of course the conditions (most especially the money) are right - it was probably naive of 'em to use that as a selling point given that you never know what the futures gonna hold, but I honestly can't understand why people would make it the focus of such vitriol. It's like... so what? Maybe he would have fought at 168 or 154 if the conditions were right, but the simple fact is that the biggest money fight dropped into his lap at 160, so we'll never know. Big deal.

No. People wouldn't usually be that bothered by ish like that. The problem is that certain of his fanbase used that claim to mock the credibility of other fighters who had achieved more - and I'm talking principally Floyd and Ward. That's where the hatred started and that's when I'm pretty sure the TS got on the train... basically the vitriol and anger around Golovkin is an extension of the ongoing Pac - Floyd bullchit and also seems to have become entangled with the ****ed up racial politics of the US in some minds... leastways, that's my take. Dude ain't really doing much different from other fighters I think... least not enough to become the polarising mfer he has on this forum.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Lmao, you didn’t ask “yes or no” you said “true or false” dumbass, and yes canelo has more fans then ggg so we are the majority and majority says you ggg fans are idiots

Lmfao.

Dont try to flip the script because you're too dumb to answer a ****ing question properly.

Let's try again. Is the score cards of 115-113 x2 and 114-114 for the A side boxer fighting at home dominant? Yes or no?

Oh? Canelo has more fans right? I know he does obviously, but then why is it that on all those polls where it was who won, Canelo or GGG anywhere you can find them on the internet including here does more people think GGG won?

Hmm? Where are all his fans?

Fight1
370 75.98% GGG
67 13.76%Canelo
50 10.27% Draw

Fight 2
166 57.44% GGG
96 33.22% Canelo
27 9.34%Draw

Every poll and every media score cars reflects the trends that GGG EASILYwon the first fight against Canelo and while Canelo did better didnt do good enough the 2nd time around.

But nah. Us GGG fans are the liars and cheats right? Lmfao. We are the ones who need to create stories to make is feel better about ourselves.

Tell me that the big bad media has it out for Canelo. Humor me.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I don't like any goodie 2 shoes boxers. Hated SRL. Hated Manny. Hated ODH. Hate GGG. I also felt he was pushed to the moon despite only beating mediocre bums.

I just don't see what the big deal is if you don't like GGG. There are some posters that get so upset and mad when a poster doesn't like GGG or criticizes him. Is there a rule he has to be liked by everyone?

There isnt a rule but GGG gets a lot of unfair criticisms and is always compared to Canelo.

People will talk **** about GGGs resume but in the same breathe talk up fighters like Mikey Garcia, or Tank, or Spence or whomever. But what about their resumes huh? Equally trash but guess what? GGG looks white. That's his first problem.

People will hate you for the color of your skin and if you were to say there are none here I'd call you a liar.

Then theyll complain he only has fought at 160 which is fine? Boxers can fight at whatever weight they are comfortable. GGG has been the size he started as a pro. No big deal. Unlike most boxers who started pro young and grew into their bodies

He wasnt like manny who was some malnourished kid fighting as a teen who moved up 8 weight classes. Or some guy who camps at 155 and pulls up junior middle weights and pulls down middle weights because he needs every advantage to win the fight. GGG has always made 160 comfortably.

GGG had a great amateur pedigree and is an Olympic champion. He was also a dominant force at MW for nearly a decade. And despite his poor resume the majority of people believe he should have at least one win over Canelo. The official score cards can say what they want but a majority of people believe GGG should have had that signature win.

Was anything I just said a lie?