American NFL player calls heavyweights

[LA_2_Vegas]

The last NFL player who I saw fight pro was Tom Zbikowski from the Ravens - he took a couple fights during the NFL work stoppage like 10 years ago. He had trained alongside football since he was younger, so he wasn't a novice per se- he had some decent hand speed for a HW I thought, looked better than Seth Mitchell in the small sample size but he went back to playing football. Not sure what happened after that though, don't know if he came back to boxing

[Mooshashi]

I guess you don't know ENgland, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland participate in all sports as separate en****** apart from the Olympics and athletics, lol. Then again you're American, so it's not shocking.

I've been doing business in London for 30 yrs. Just shut down my office off Berkeley Square. I've lived in England. I have an English son in law and two English grandchildren. I've seen ...on the ground...more of your little island that you have. I know more about British history than you do. My ancestors taught the Britons how to take baths.

My list was a list of countries. Where is Wales a country? Is it in the EU? Is Scotland in the EU? Yes, it has a separate Parliament but it is still only identified as a piece of the country known to the work as The United Kingdom. It is not an independent country, nor is England, Wales, or Northern Ireland. For the pieces of the UK to participate as separate countries in ANY sporting event is a joke, and the entire world knows it. Now you know it as well.

By the way, both Texas and California have been separate, identified nations. It would be just as ridiculous for those states to be separate participants in sporting events as it is for England, Wales and Scotland.

Now stick to your foggy pimple in the North Sea and get your shoe shine box.

[BangEM]

I've been doing business in London for 30 yrs. Just shut down my office off Berkeley Square. I've lived in England. I have an English son in law and two English grandchildren. I've seen ...on the ground...more of your little island that you have. I know more about British history than you do. My ancestors taught the Britons how to take baths.

My list was a list of countries. Where is Wales a country? Is it in the EU? Is Scotland in the EU? Yes, it has a separate Parliament but it is still only identified as a piece of the country known to the work as The United Kingdom. It is not an independent country, nor is England, Wales, or Northern Ireland. For the pieces of the UK to participate as separate countries in ANY sporting event is a joke, and the entire world knows it. Now you know it as well.

By the way, both Texas and California have been separate, identified nations. It would be just as ridiculous for those states to be separate participants in sporting events as it is for England, Wales and Scotland.

Now stick to your foggy pimple in the North Sea and get your shoe shine box.

LMAO. Muppet.

If you what you claimed up there, you should know how a confederation works. And even if you don’t know, if you’re a sports fan, you should know England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland compete as separate en****** in sports.

Football alone should tell you that. So why are you trying to make a non-existent point by citing it in rugby? Or are you saying because all the countries in the confederation compete as separate en****** in football - football isn’t a far bigger sport than basketball?

[BangEM]

Schaub regularly says really ****** stuff about many things and his boxing analysis is painful. He did play football, box and fight MMA professionally though so he might have some insight.

If his point was along the lines of 5 or 10% of the population has good athletic abilities, right now the best of the best of those are going to NFL (or NBA etc) instead of boxing, and if boxing was more popular or profitable and those cream of the crop athletes pursued boxing as kids/teens instead of football they would be better then the current crop of boxers I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

Thats a completely different argument than if the most athletic guys from the NFL took up boxing now they would dominate which I very much doubt.

Knowing Schaub it probably was the latter though.

The Schaub guy is a twat. I don’t know why they allow idiots like him have a platform to discuss boxing.

[Mooshashi]

LMAO. Muppet.

If you what you claimed up there, you should know how a confederation works. And even if you don’t know, if you’re a sports fan, you should know England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland compete as separate en****** in sports.

Football alone should tell you that. So why are you trying to make a non-existent point by citing it in rugby? Or are you saying because all the countries in the confederation compete as separate en****** in football - football isn’t a far bigger sport than basketball?

We were discussing rugby, not football. Yes, we all know the various pieces of the United Kingdom are allowed to enter sports competitions separately. Doesn't make it less ridiculous.

No, I am not saying football (calcio as it is more properly named) is more popular than basketball. Had you managed to comprehend my post, I showed figures proving that basketball is played competitively in WAAAY more countries than is rugby.

And with those final comments, I bid you adieu. Please, have the last word. It seems important to you.

[Boxing_1013]

LMAO. Muppet.

If you what you claimed up there, you should know how a confederation works. And even if you don’t know, if you’re a sports fan, you should know England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland compete as separate en****** in sports.

Football alone should tell you that. So why are you trying to make a non-existent point by citing it in rugby? Or are you saying because all the countries in the confederation compete as separate en****** in football - football isn’t a far bigger sport than basketball?

He said go home and get your ...... shine box!!!

[BangEM]

We were discussing rugby, not football. Yes, we all know the various pieces of the United Kingdom are allowed to enter sports competitions separately. Doesn't make it less ridiculous.

No, I am not saying football (calcio as it is more properly named) is more popular than basketball. Had you managed to comprehend my post, I showed figures proving that basketball is played competitively in WAAAY more countries than is rugby.

And with those final comments, I bid you adieu. Please, have the last word. It seems important to you.

Again, you don’t understand how a confederation works. There’s absolutely nothing ridiculous about the countries in the union competing in sports as separate en******. And stop trying to compare the American mindset of federalism to a completely different system of government. All the countries in the UK are sovereign countries and it isn’t the same as the US.

Also, rugby is the national sport of all the whole of Oceania. It’s also huge in Europe, Asia, and Southern/Eastern Africa (I think it’s the biggest sport in South Africa).

[Mooshashi]

Again, you don’t understand how a confederation works. There’s absolutely nothing ridiculous about the countries in the union competing in sports as separate en******. And stop trying to compare the American mindset of federalism to a completely different system of government. All the countries in the UK are sovereign countries and it isn’t the same as the US.

Also, rugby is the national sport of all the whole of Oceania. It’s also huge in Europe, Asia, and Southern/Eastern Africa (I think it’s the biggest sport in South Africa).

No, they are NOT sovereign countries. Not by any definition of the word "sovereign". It is a stretch, but it, as well as England, may be called a province, or a nation. But not a country or a sovereign state.

See below.

And finally, and I do mean FINALLY: There are WAAAY more countries that have national basketball teams than there are countries that have national rugby teams. Tonga has a rugby team? Yes, AND a basketball team. So does the Cook Islands FFS.

Criteria Defining an Independent Country
Here's how Scotland measures upon the criteria that define an independent country or state.

Space or Territory With Internationally Recognized Boundaries

Boundary disputes are OK. Scotland does have internationally recognized boundaries and an area of 78,133 square kilometers.

People Live There on an Ongoing Basis
According to the 2001 census, Scotland's population is 5,062,011.

Economic Activity and an Organized Economy
This also means a country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money. Scotland certainly has economic activity and an organized economy; Scotland even has its own GDP (over 62 billion pounds sterling as of 1998). However, Scotland does not regulate foreign or domestic trade, and the Scottish Parliament is not authorized to do so.

Under the terms of the Scotland Act 1998, the Scottish Parliament is able to pass laws on a range of issues known as devolved issues. The United Kingdom Parliament is able to act on "reserved issues." Reserved issues include a variety of economic issues: the fiscal, economic and monetary system; energy; common markets; and traditions.

The Bank of Scotland does issue money, but it prints the British pound on behalf of the central government.

The Power of Social Engineering, Such As Education
The Scottish Parliament is able to control education, training, and social work (but not social security). However, this power was granted to Scotland by U.K. Parliament.

Transportation System for Moving Goods and People
Scotland itself has a transportation system, but the system is not fully under Scottish control. The Scottish Parliament controls some aspects of transportation, including the Scottish road network, bus policy, and ports and harbors, while the U.K. Parliament controls railways, transport safety, and regulation. Again, Scotland's power was granted by the U.K. Parliament.

Government That Provides Public Services and Police Power
The Scottish Parliament has the ability to control law and home affairs (including most aspects of criminal and civil law, the prosecution system, and the courts) as well as the police and fire services. The U.K. Parliament controls defense and national security across the United Kingdom. Again, Scotland's power was granted to Scotland by the U.K. Parliament.

Sovereignty: No Other State Has Power Over the Country's Territory
Scotland does not have sovereignty. The U.K. Parliament definitely has power over Scotland's territory.

External Recognition, "Voted Into the Club" by Other Countries
Scotland does not have external recognition, nor does Scotland have its own embassies in other independent countries.

[BangEM]

No, they are NOT sovereign countries. Not by any definition of the word "sovereign". It is a stretch, but it, as well as England, may be called a province, or a nation. But not a country or a sovereign state.

See below.

And finally, and I do mean FINALLY: There are WAAAY more countries that have national basketball teams than there are countries that have national rugby teams. Tonga has a rugby team? Yes, AND a basketball team. So does the Cook Islands FFS.

Criteria Defining an Independent Country
Here's how Scotland measures upon the criteria that define an independent country or state.

Space or Territory With Internationally Recognized Boundaries

Boundary disputes are OK. Scotland does have internationally recognized boundaries and an area of 78,133 square kilometers.

People Live There on an Ongoing Basis
According to the 2001 census, Scotland's population is 5,062,011.

Economic Activity and an Organized Economy
This also means a country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money. Scotland certainly has economic activity and an organized economy; Scotland even has its own GDP (over 62 billion pounds sterling as of 1998). However, Scotland does not regulate foreign or domestic trade, and the Scottish Parliament is not authorized to do so.

Under the terms of the Scotland Act 1998, the Scottish Parliament is able to pass laws on a range of issues known as devolved issues. The United Kingdom Parliament is able to act on "reserved issues." Reserved issues include a variety of economic issues: the fiscal, economic and monetary system; energy; common markets; and traditions.

The Bank of Scotland does issue money, but it prints the British pound on behalf of the central government.

The Power of Social Engineering, Such As Education
The Scottish Parliament is able to control education, training, and social work (but not social security). However, this power was granted to Scotland by U.K. Parliament.

Transportation System for Moving Goods and People
Scotland itself has a transportation system, but the system is not fully under Scottish control. The Scottish Parliament controls some aspects of transportation, including the Scottish road network, bus policy, and ports and harbors, while the U.K. Parliament controls railways, transport safety, and regulation. Again, Scotland's power was granted by the U.K. Parliament.

Government That Provides Public Services and Police Power
The Scottish Parliament has the ability to control law and home affairs (including most aspects of criminal and civil law, the prosecution system, and the courts) as well as the police and fire services. The U.K. Parliament controls defense and national security across the United Kingdom. Again, Scotland's power was granted to Scotland by the U.K. Parliament.

Sovereignty: No Other State Has Power Over the Country's Territory
Scotland does not have sovereignty. The U.K. Parliament definitely has power over Scotland's territory.

External Recognition, "Voted Into the Club" by Other Countries
Scotland does not have external recognition, nor does Scotland have its own embassies in other independent countries.

You just copied and pasted what you don't understand. And you also don't understand the concept of sovereignty in this context.

[LoadedWraps]

It shows respect for the sport of boxing and brings some
Much needed media coverage on a mainstream level.

Exactly what is wrong with this?

Besides while a physically imposing presence, anybody who has boxed knows it’s not about physicality or power but technique and adjustments.

Brandon Marshall will fail miserably and that only strengthens the argument how boxing is the toughest sport.

Solid post here. I agree with every word.

Will be fun to watch him discover his ceiling, and how he reacts when he gets tested. An NFL player did this during the lockout a few years back, lost track of him.