Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: I'm a Hall of Famer Right Now - I'm a King

[The Big Dunn]

Unbelievable hypocrisy!

On the subject of Wilder turning down offers to fight AJ, you just said, "I defend any athlete's right to turn down a deal".

But when it comes to Fury turning down an immediate rematch with Wilder on PBC .... because he got a better deal for the same fight from Arum, you change your tune completely!

Fury is "running away" Brits want him to be forgiven or excused, but there's no way you can absolve him for his actions, blah blah ..

Fury has already signed for the rematch. If anybody runs away it's going to be Wilder, not Fury. And when that happens, I have no doubt that you and the other Haymon fanboys will have a million and one excuses lined up for him.

Fair point. Calling Fury a coward for running from the rematch to sign with TR is hypocritical on my part. exactly When did he get a better deal from Arum for the same fight?

Fury already ran once, to TR. where will he run next, DAZN? He felt wilder's power and wanted to make sure he made some more drug money before wilder finishes him. I get it.

No excuses lined up for Wilder. My guess is Fury will suddenly need stitches from Bob's son in law (you know the ole need stitches routine Manny pulled before Floyd went to jail) in about December to delay the fight. Then he will need a comeback fight.

[kafkod]

Those fighters have exclusive deals with DAZN. You know he can't get them to fight off of dazn.

To the best of my knowledge, DAZN don't have any exclusivity deals, They have right of first refusal deals, which is a different thing, and they sign contracts guaranteeing fighters like Canelo and GGG "X" amount of money for "X" number of fights against approved opponents on their platform.

He does the same thing his competitors do, you guys only express anger when he does it.

Can you give me one example of Hearn blocking an attempt by Haymon or any of his sock puppets to make a fight between a PBC fighter and a Matchroom fighter?

[kafkod]

Those fighters have exclusive deals with DAZN. You know he can't get them to fight off of dazn.

He does the same thing his competitors do, you guys only express anger when he does it.

When have Hearn or DAZN ever done what Haymon is doing?

[vitali1999]

Even before AJ lost to Ruiz i said Fury was the best HW. I think he could beat Wilder but I also think Wilder could beat Fury too.

Well Wilders only shot is a TKO, he can't decision Fury. If Wilder can knock him down again and this time unleash non-stop punches then he could get the ref to waive it off. My pick Fury by decision again. This time the judges actually give it to him.

[joe strong]

Well Wilders only shot is a TKO, he can't decision Fury. If Wilder can knock him down again and this time unleash non-stop punches then he could get the ref to waive it off. My pick Fury by decision again. This time the judges actually give it to him.

i actually had it 7-5 Fury but the 2 kds made it a draw on my card. If Fury could have avoided either kd he wins on my card. I think Fury can make the proper adjustments to avoid getting knocked down again but I’m not sure Wilder can make the same necessary adjusts he will need to land more often. I too would have to favour Fury in the rematch but man Wilder has that eraser right hand & it only takes one. There have been some great one punch KO artists in the past but there are not many who can punch harder than Wilder. He has uncanny power & the punch can come from any angle & at any time...

[vitali1999]

i actually had it 7-5 Fury but the 2 kds made it a draw on my card. If Fury could have avoided either kd he wins on my card. I think Fury can make the proper adjustments to avoid getting knocked down again but I’m not sure Wilder can make the same necessary adjusts he will need to land more often. I too would have to favour Fury in the rematch but man Wilder has that eraser right hand & it only takes one. There have been some great one punch KO artists in the past but there are not many who can punch harder than Wilder. He has uncanny power & the punch can come from any angle & at any time...

Yes but Fury showed the chin and heart to take Wilders best power shots. The Achilles heel here maybe Fury's cut opening up again.

[Tyistall]

Regarding your point about legacy-before Fury signed with TR the plan appeared to be to fight Fury next and the winner fight AJ. I think that clearly shows a willingness to define legacy.

As for his resume-Wilder isn't that good. IMO all he has is power. You can fairly criticize his resume. I think his team recognizes his lack of skill and matches him accordingly. I think Wilder's paydays far exceed his talent level. Hw many fighters have actually done that?

You have no idea what the Ortiz PPV will sell. It might do very well.

Come on now, you and I both know that PPV is not going to do good hahahh. Nobody is looking forward to this rematch which is why Wilder keeps running his mouth about AJ. And nobody was happier that AJ lost than Wilder because he was catching hell every day about turning down 120 million. I agree that he has been matched well to look good. But man, at some point you have to let the training wheels go right? He will be 34 in a couple of weeks and unification is only something he talks about when they bring up Ruiz. Grant it, they are basically label mates, but Wilder needs to grow a pair before he gets to be Ortiz's age

[LoadedWraps]

Yes but Fury showed the chin and heart to take Wilders best power shots. The Achilles heel here maybe Fury's cut opening up again.

Fury is too slick for Wilder to hit that area flush many times.

[The Big Dunn]

To the best of my knowledge, DAZN don't have any exclusivity deals, They have right of first refusal deals, which is a different thing, and they sign contracts guaranteeing fighters like Canelo and GGG "X" amount of money for "X" number of fights against approved opponents on their platform.

Can you give me one example of Hearn blocking an attempt by Haymon or any of his sock puppets to make a fight between a PBC fighter and a Matchroom fighter?

When have Hearn or DAZN ever done what Haymon is doing?

The whole AJ/Povetkin "wilder is next" BS. when he launched dazn. Also the thread below where he talks about the "monopoly" he has at 160 and 168.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=828892

when has a dazn fighter fought on PBC or ESPN? It may have happened and I missed it.

The default for you guys is just to blame Haymon and pretend everyone else is working together. Yet when Bob blocks the fury/wilder rematch you guys justify it. When haymon blocks wilder/AJ, you guys want to condemn him.

[kafkod]

The whole AJ/Povetkin "wilder is next" BS. when he launched dazn. Also the thread below where he talks about the "monopoly" he has at 160 and 168.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=828892

when has a dazn fighter fought on PBC or ESPN? It may have happened and I missed it.

The default for you guys is just to blame Haymon and pretend everyone else is working together. Yet when Bob blocks the fury/wilder rematch you guys justify it. When haymon blocks wilder/AJ, you guys want to condemn him.

Arum didn't block the Wilder/Fury rematch. Here's what actually happened:

The original rematch clause was voided by the draw. Fury offered to go through with it anyway, provided Wilder would agree to it happening in the UK, rather than on another PBC show in the US. Wilder refused to fight Fury in the UK.

Arum then stepped in and offered Fury a multi-deal deal on ESPN, which included a rematch with Wilder, in the US, for a lot more money than PBC would have payed him to fight Wilder again immediately. Fury accepted the deal with Arum and has signed a contract to rematch Wilder in Feb, provided Wilder beats Ortiz and Fury's eye injury is fully healed.

So Fury isn't running away from it and Arum isn't blocking it.

Secondly, Hearn talking about having a monopoly at 160 and 168 is not blocking Haymon or Arum from trying to make fights on PBC with Canelo, GGG or any of the Matchroom stable, by sending them offers which equal or surpass what they can earn with DAZN.

No DAZN fighter has fought on PBC or ESPN because no DAZN fighter has ever been offered more money than DAZN are paying them to do so.