Spence “I’ll Never Betray Al, sets us up for retirement..” explains PBC Model

[Ray*]

Angulo fighting Peter Quillin, after going 3-5 over the prior 8 fights, wasn't a low-risk fight though.

He's getting the shot because Truax got hurt, but still he got the call with enough time to formally have a fight camp and still get a main event, after going 3-5.

Nobody is turning down 15 times their paycheck, lol; under the Haymon umbrella, if the money is basically even or comparable, you trust the person who has done right by you and your family (instead of reaching for a bag, but not seeing that you've been cut out of the live event money, or being left waiting on a promised title shot that can't be delivered, or some back-end clauses that turn a two-fight deal into an owed six-fight package that you can't get out of).

For Quillin Angulo was a low risk fight. Lost 5 times over the last 8 fights, was lower in weight compare to Quillin.

And like I said if I was a boxer I would probably follow that model too, I have seen Broner, Charlo, Wilder all turned down great money, might not be 15 times their usual payday but at least 7/8 times their usual payday for lesser risks.

I don’t hate the game, as a fan I criticise it because I want to see the best fight the best, but if I was a pro I would probably go with that model.

Fight for Hearn and earn bigger payday and get match tough early or go through the PBC Model of lesser risk but lesser pay whilst am 30-0, I know I would go the lesser route.

[Thuglife Nelo]

This whole post is trash

Look at the History of the Sport and how even the Biggest names almost always went Broke shortly after Retirement

You hear the Stories all the time even now Guys getting less then 50% of their Purse with their Scumbag Promoter taking the Lions share

Haymon sets these guys up to be Financially Independent after their done in the sport whether their a Top draw or not , Almost every suit in the Sport is only Concerned with how much they can take from a fighter

Think on this , When J-Ric ( Who is far from a Big Name ) beat Hurd he said He already had Millions in Real Estate Rental Properties , Niw look at Matthysse , Guys was in plenty of Big fights his purses probably totaled over 8 figures in his career and he was saying before the PAC fight he was far from being a Millionaire.

That’s why Fighters love Haymon because he doesn’t need to steal from them to make $ and he actually wants his clients to be Set Up after the sport.

You think that’s fear & Insecurity , It’s realizing that someone actually has their best interest and not just trying to take everything they can from them

You can love Haymon the way fighters love him, he’s still just a salesman duping his clients and getting the 10% commission.

[bballchump11]

If you're not half an idiot, a decent/good fighter would have set himself up for retirement from the get go.

I guess 95% of fighters are idiots then.

[Boxing_1013]

Vanes? Was a fighter who wanted more stay busy fights. I think Collazo had more action than Vanes on PBC

Good call...didn't Vanes speak out and then tried to take it back? I don't really recall...I would have liked to have seen Vanes mix it up more, besides just the GGG fight...I think he still had something left

[MastaBlasta]

A lot of pretty dumb comments in this thread (beginning of course with the Town Jester Widdit). Millionaires, Billonaires, corporate heads, most professional people, and anyone that can find a good one ... all use PROFESSIONAL Financial Planning people to ensure their retirement incomes. It has zero to do with how much they personally know or what their economic background is. Even a scientist will let PROFESSIONALS set up their portfolio .... it's their field of expertise. Know one has time to be an expert at everything.

But y'all gonna insinuate that Al Haymon is "taking advantage" of people "from backgrounds" that know nothing about financial planning. Really??? That, by your non-logic, would be mostly everyone.

Evidently most professional people fit that bill too, since most use financial planners whenever they can (and most would jump at a chance to get advice from Haymon's people). Obviously it's a very smart thing to do, and a huge asset when you can get it as a part of your employment.

All of us must be getting taken advantage of, per you knuckleheads, hahahaha!!

The ridiculous lows some of you uneducated baffoons will go to try and throw shade at PBC and Al Haymon, indicate how ignorant and bitter you are at their success (PBC and the fighters).

Your Daddy told you a long time ago, if you have nothing nice to say .... don't say anything. In your demented anger and bitterness, you make a fool of yourself. One day you'll learn.

[nghtmr111]

That's all good. The question I have for Al is: Why is Gervonta rotting on the shelf?

I kinda agree with 'Tha Kid's' response to your comment here... BUT I also see where you are going with this. I really would like to see him fighting a bit better opposition, if not other champions... If none of the above AT LEAST he can be more active.

[MastaBlasta]

I don’t hate the game, as a fan I criticise it because I want to see the best fight the best, but if I was a pro I would probably go with that model.

Fight for Hearn and earn bigger payday and get match tough early or go through the PBC Model of lesser risk but lesser pay whilst am 30-0, I know I would go the lesser route.

Nothing like a clown babbling ignorance and ignoring facts. Seems a certain "PBC model" fighter recently cleaned the ring floor with your "hearn model" fighter recently and upset hearn's whole world. How was that for a "soft" fight with "less risk?"


Right! I thought so! Hahahah! There goes your non-logic.

[factsarenice]

Your admiration for fighters financial well being border that of his accountant and girl friend. That said, I watch boxing for skill set, competition, technique and supremacy. If that fighter wants the big money he needs to show fights worth paying for.

Fighters going broke are not unique or different then baseball, football and every other sport. As for Matthysse he made his money fighting Manny on ESPN with TR.

This whole post is trash

Look at the History of the Sport and how even the Biggest names almost always went Broke shortly after Retirement

You hear the Stories all the time even now Guys getting less then 50% of their Purse with their Scumbag Promoter taking the Lions share

Haymon sets these guys up to be Financially Independent after their done in the sport whether their a Top draw or not , Almost every suit in the Sport is only Concerned with how much they can take from a fighter

Think on this , When J-Ric ( Who is far from a Big Name ) beat Hurd he said He already had Millions in Real Estate Rental Properties , Niw look at Matthysse , Guys was in plenty of Big fights his purses probably totaled over 8 figures in his career and he was saying before the PAC fight he was far from being a Millionaire.

That’s why Fighters love Haymon because he doesn’t need to steal from them to make $ and he actually wants his clients to be Set Up after the sport.

You think that’s fear & Insecurity , It’s realizing that someone actually has their best interest and not just trying to take everything they can from them

[factsarenice]

Ruiz was a higher risk fight than Miller and outside of Fury, arguably better than anyone Wilder has ever fought.

Nothing like a clown babbling ignorance and ignoring facts. Seems a certain "PBC model" fighter recently cleaned the ring floor with your "hearn model" fighter recently and upset hearn's whole world. How was that for a "soft" fight with "less risk?"


Right! I thought so! Hahahah! There goes your non-logic.

[MastaBlasta]

Haymon is a good businessman and sounds like a good dude. That being said him and Spence are *****es for holding up the Crawford fight.

Don't be ****** in and buy the hype. Arum will only make that fight if someone gives him everything he wants and bends over and kisses his saggin' a$$. When he's ready to be reasonable and fair all around, that fight will be made.

Besides, it has potential to be in the league of May-Pac .... if Crawford can find top competition to bust up along the way (like Spence is trying to do). Haymon is not obligated to provide competition for Top Ranks guys. Nor vice-versa.