Spence “I’ll Never Betray Al, sets us up for retirement..” explains PBC Model

[Scipio2009]

PBC plantation model is a good one, ****** fight and Al Gaymon makes his money

If PBC is a plantation, how do you explain the top fighters taking the bulk of the money on their own fights.

If you work on a plantation, that you end up owning a piece of when you get to a certain level of worth, what's the issue?

[HanzGruber]

If you're not half an idiot, a decent/good fighter would have set himself up for retirement from the get go.

Well only an idiot would get punched in the head for a living

[Motorcity Cobra]

That's all good. The question I have for Al is: Why is Gervonta rotting on the shelf?

He's fought twice this year and has another fight in December....

[Motorcity Cobra]

PBC plantation model is a good one, ****** fight and Al Gaymon makes his money

See. It's all about race with these people.

[Scipio2009]

I said Hearn got a company, DAZN, to offer Wilder $100mil. And what’s wrong with that? PBC diehards have an insecurity for sharing. Yeah AJ and Hearn benefit and get a good pay for the Wilder fights and so does Wilder. The $100mil is gone! This is why we troll that Ruiz got the shine and he did. Now if Ruiz gets KO’d, we might see a Trilogy. It’s the money Wilder missed out on. Fury’s eye cut ain’t going to help the situation either

$100m for at least 4 fights, where Wilder was on a handshake with Showtime and Joshua was a free agent in the US.

You take those 4 fights on a straight-up negotiation (tickover on Showtime, 50/50 on a SHOPPV/Sky Box Office, 60/40 to the winner for another SHOPPV/Sky Box Office event, 4th fight) and Wilder's share of the proceeds are likely we'll beyond $100m.

You're making yourself look ****** here, as if the money wasn't there for Wilder and Joshua on the open market.


Andy Ruiz took shorter money that Big Baby Miller was due to get, ****ed up Matchroom Sport's plan for Joshua's US invasion, and then turned around and tried to **** him out of even more money when the projected live event money went from $20m-$25m to $40m+.

Why are you acting like folks didn't just see this happen? And that's before you get to the folks who have actual contact with Ruiz's representatives who now have a first-hand account as to how Eddie Hearn likes to do business. Lol

[Thuglife Nelo]

$100m for at least 4 fights, where Wilder was on a handshake with Showtime and Joshua was a free agent in the US.

You take those 4 fights on a straight-up negotiation (tickover on Showtime, 50/50 on a SHOPPV/Sky Box Office, 60/40 to the winner for another SHOPPV/Sky Box Office event, 4th fight) and Wilder's share of the proceeds are likely we'll beyond $100m.

You're making yourself look ****** here, as if the money wasn't there for Wilder and Joshua on the open market.


Andy Ruiz took shorter money that Big Baby Miller was due to get, ****ed up Matchroom Sport's plan for Joshua's US invasion, and then turned around and tried to **** him out of even more money when the projected live event money went from $20m-$25m to $40m+.

Why are you acting like folks didn't just see this happen? And that's before you get to the folks who have actual contact with Ruiz's representatives who now have a first-hand account as to how Eddie Hearn likes to do business. Lol

Mayne let's not even entertain this garbage. I hope you guys don't feel sad when Wilder loses to Ortiz in the rematch. I'll focus on AJ vs Ruiz rematch. Just want to watch good fights. You guys enjoy the PBC business model.

[Scipio2009]

Vanes? Was a fighter who wanted more stay busy fights. I think Collazo had more action than Vanes on PBC

Vanes didn't want a "stay busy fight"; he wanted another world title shot after dropping three of them (two of which were delivered by Haymon).

Vanes wanted out, Haymon let him out, Vanes signed with Don King because King sold him on delivering a world title shot, and after nearly two years sitting around, King was "able to deliver" a shot at the WBC 160lb title against Golovkin on barely a month's notice.

[Scipio2009]

Mayne let's not even entertain this garbage. I hope you guys don't feel sad when Wilder loses to Ortiz in the rematch. I'll focus on AJ vs Ruiz rematch. Just want to watch good fights. You guys enjoy the PBC business model.

If he loses to Ortiz, he loses to Ortiz; if the fight is as good as the first one, we'll likely see a rubber match anyway, and both fighters will take their fair piece of an even bigger event.

Still, however his career goes for the rest of the run after that, he'd move forward knowing that he decided his path for himself (and that he's also made even money to make sure that he's secure for the rest of his life, and his children's lives already).

Enjoy the Joshua rematch

[R_Walken]

It’s probably the reason why Haymon made Floyd his project/guinea pig aside from his 10% cuts on all fighters. Seeing how Floyd splurged on money it was always imperative for Haymon to set him up with big fights post Oscar. I’m more than sure it was all Haymon’s doing for the Marquez and Canelo weights since Floyd’s undefeated reputation is what kept Haymon’s partial income a float. It explains the redundancy in PBC in-house design like Top Rank.

A lot of these fighters have a father and a manager whom ideally would know the concept of financial advisory for their boxer/son.

Haymon feeds off fighters whom are insecure or gullible when it comes to money, which is why Floyd was the proxy for Haymon to exploit for other fighters.

“I want to thank Al Haymon” x 100 seems like a protocol from what Haymon asks his fighters to do.

For what it’s worth, Eddie Hearn ain’t perfect, but we gotta give him credit for Matchroom USA giving American fighters an income. 100mil for Wilder and Hearn is the enemy?

Let me repeat...$100mil

Let me repeat again...$100mil

It’s amazing how many PBC fighters fear Al, to go against the grain

This whole post is trash

Look at the History of the Sport and how even the Biggest names almost always went Broke shortly after Retirement

You hear the Stories all the time even now Guys getting less then 50% of their Purse with their Scumbag Promoter taking the Lions share

Haymon sets these guys up to be Financially Independent after their done in the sport whether their a Top draw or not , Almost every suit in the Sport is only Concerned with how much they can take from a fighter

Think on this , When J-Ric ( Who is far from a Big Name ) beat Hurd he said He already had Millions in Real Estate Rental Properties , Niw look at Matthysse , Guys was in plenty of Big fights his purses probably totaled over 8 figures in his career and he was saying before the PAC fight he was far from being a Millionaire.

That’s why Fighters love Haymon because he doesn’t need to steal from them to make $ and he actually wants his clients to be Set Up after the sport.

You think that’s fear & Insecurity , It’s realizing that someone actually has their best interest and not just trying to take everything they can from them

[factsarenice]

If he loses to Ortiz, he loses to Ortiz; if the fight is as good as the first one, we'll likely see a rubber match anyway, and both fighters will take their fair piece of an even bigger event.

Still, however his career goes for the rest of the run after that, he'd move forward knowing that he decided his path for himself (and that he's also made even money to make sure that he's secure for the rest of his life, and his children's lives already).

Enjoy the Joshua rematch

Great and this does exactly what for the fight fans that pay to see the best fight the best? Stop paying?