Comments Thread For: Warren: After Fury-Wallin, Not So Sure VAR is Needed in Boxing

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  • landotter
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    #11
    So... by the logic here, it is NOT the video replay that is the problem, it is the process? Well, fix the process.

    1) Have very defined uses for it. I think Warrens point of preserving the flow of the bout is 100% legit, and too many video replays would destroy that. The cuts in this fight is a perfect use. Late hits or punches while the fighter is down are two more easy calls to use replay. I also would want the VAR to be used to correct a KD that was actually a slip, and vice-versa. Not sure I would want to get to far in the weeds, but I would be fine to use VAR to verify if a point was taken by the ref for low blows. (I would not want to use VAR to go back and penalize a fighter for low blows not scored.)

    2) Have the video replay judge have a very set time frame to make a call.

    3) Have one person ion each corner be the communication for the video replay judge. That way the judge knows exactly who to inform.

    This is not that hard, but it is boxing so a unified front is 2 decades away.

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      #12
      Originally posted by kafkod
      You are clearly assuming that Wallin and his corner weren't informed about the commission's ruling and didn't know they would win if the fight was stopped.

      And you are clearly wrong about that.

      If Wallin's corner didn't know they could win by forcing a stoppage, then why were they telling him repeatedly to target Fury's cut, and why did Wallin himself deliberately try to make the cut worse by raking it with his glove?
      Regardless if the Nevada commission had informed Otto Wallin or not, any corner would of advised Otto Wallin to further aggravate Fury's injury. If the doctors, or Nevada was not going to stop the fight, Fury's corner would of if they actually cared about Tyson's future and health.

      Otto would of forced a TKO.

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        #13
        Silly article. Of course video replay is needed. Obviously they do need to make it clear whats going on to the boxers & trainers, but boxers should receive as fair a outcome as they can get. And the replay allows for that.

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          #14
          Originally posted by FairPlay
          This exercise in ******ity makes absolutely no sense. Warren is using some sort of Chewbacca defense, or maybe he's running his mouth just to stay in the public's eye. Just look at his premises and the conclusion he makes:

          1. Ref made the call about the cut.
          2. Instant replay (VAR) showed that the ref was wrong and the comision corrected his call.
          Conclusion: Therefore, VAR should not be allowed in boxing.

          Can anybody see any sense in his idiocy?
          You're not wrong, this is the worst example to try and use against VAR, Fury's corner not being informed or hearing was an issue, ESPN informing them is an issue, correctly identifying it was a punch not a head clash is a clear example of it working.

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            #15
            Originally posted by andocom
            You're not wrong, this is the worst example to try and use against VAR, Fury's corner not being informed or hearing was an issue, ESPN informing them is an issue, correctly identifying it was a punch not a head clash is a clear example of it working.

            You hit that right on brother
            Right out of the old ball park

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            • kafkod
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              #16
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              Regardless if the Nevada commission had informed Otto Wallin or not, any corner would of advised Otto Wallin to further aggravate Fury's injury. If the doctors, or Nevada was not going to stop the fight, Fury's corner would of if they actually cared about Tyson's future and health.

              Otto would of forced a TKO.
              Are you really this dumb?

              Wallin's corner wouldn't have known they could force a TKO if they hadn't been informed of the commission's ruling.

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                #17
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Are you really this dumb?

                Wallin's corner wouldn't have known they could force a TKO if they hadn't been informed of the commission's ruling.
                Common sense bruh. Otto knew he landed the left hand that caused Fury's cut, are you this dumb?

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                  #18
                  We never needed replays to have more eyes on a fight.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by FairPlay
                    This exercise in ******ity makes absolutely no sense. Warren is using some sort of Chewbacca defense, or maybe he's running his mouth just to stay in the public's eye. Just look at his premises and the conclusion he makes:

                    1. Ref made the call about the cut.
                    2. Instant replay (VAR) showed that the ref was wrong and the comision corrected his call.
                    Conclusion: Therefore, VAR should not be allowed in boxing.

                    Can anybody see any sense in his idiocy?
                    All he's really doing is complaining about the commission overruling the ref's call, because it meant that if the fight had been stopped, Fury would have lost.

                    In this particular case, the VAR didn't show what Warren would have liked it to show. Therefor, VAR shouldn't be used in boxing, period. Typical Frank Warren.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun

                      Denying a over-matched opponent his chance to force a stoppage that he earned fair and square is WRONG. Otto Wallin got screwed anyways ( despite the fact that Nevada made the right call ) by referee Tony Weeks.
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun
                      Common sense bruh. Otto knew he landed the left hand that caused Fury's cut, are you this dumb?
                      So Wallin knew the cut had been caused by a punch, and the ref told Fury it had been caused by an accidental foul, which could have cost Tyson the fight.

                      Now explain to me how that means Wallin got screwed by the ref?

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