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  • The Big Dunn
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    #191
    Originally posted by ADP02
    I see that you are trying to deflect away from what was said. The other poster pointed out what I have already pointed out previously to you. If it was Floyd, not Manny, you would be OK that Floyd fights someone like a Berto and calls it a day instead of fighting Spence or Crawford. Too risky for Floyd. You want to protect Floyd at all times.


    Canelo at 152: Canelo did NOT want to fight at 152. He was adamant that he would have trouble making 152. Canelo was interviewed a bit before the fight. Canelo admitted that making weight was the hardest thing out of his whole training camp!!!

    Cotto at 145: He was asked the same question in an interview. Cotto laughed it off. He said that he easily made 146 in his previous fight against Clottey. See the difference?

    Margarito at 151: Margarito was a 147lb fighter. He got a 4lbs bonus!


    Floyd had already fought at 154 for the title and won. So that makes it 2 reasons why you do NOT call that fight with Canelo a risk. Third reason is that Canelo was super green back then that had trouble with stamina. Draining Canelo does NOT help your stamina issues!!! .
    Your 1st paragraph is a lie. I wanted Floyd to fight GGG instead of Berto and posted that many times. The threads verify this.

    Cotto didn't want to fight at 145, Margs didn't want to fight at 151 and Morales was having trouble making 130 which is why he went up to 135 to fight Raheem before he fought the rematch against Manny. Again you want it both ways and you can't have it that way.

    I am fine if you say Canelo at 152 is no risk. Just be consistent for and say the same for CW fights Manny has.

    Margs was not a 147lb fighter, he had fought at 154 2 fights before and was 0-1-1 at the weight. It's fine if you don't know this but at least be humble enough to check facts before you post nonsense.

    Ahh the "Canelo was green" excuse. You posted Canelo was going to beat Floyd. SO how is it not a risk to fight someone you posted would beat him?

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      #192
      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
      The same Khan DSG did away with ?

      Yeah, Pac hes been very active during his career, but he very rarely takes on guys with power

      Thurman had 1 fight prior to Pac and it was after an injury and a lack luster performance vs a club fighter.

      If a fight fan thinks a certain person with a certain style would trouble May, fine. But let's not just out names for the heck of it.
      djtmal made threads calling for Floyd to fight Shane after Shane destroyed Margs. He was confident Shane would win. Floyd fought Shane and beat him. djtmal later called the win a cherrypick. Number of guys called him on this. Irondanhamza completely ethered him about this when he lied about making the thread.

      You are not dealing with a rational, honest poster with any integrity or credibility. Just keep that in mind when going back and forth with him.

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      • djtmal
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        #193
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        djtmal made threads calling for Floyd to fight Shane after Shane destroyed Margs. He was confident Shane would win. Floyd fought Shane and beat him. djtmal later called the win a cherrypick. Number of guys called him on this. Irondanhamza completely ethered him about this when he lied about making the thread.

        You are not dealing with a rational, honest poster with any integrity or credibility. Just keep that in mind when going back and forth with him.
        The part that is conveniently left out is Shane Mosley was a year and a half inactive when Floyd finally felt Shane was a safe fight. Proving how low of a risk it was to fight him and the point of the whole thread.

        Floyd certainly has other fights where the cherrypick accusation is harder for Floyd Boys like Dunn to excuse away, so please excuse his redundancy in bringing up this tired piece of history when beating a shopworn Shane Mosley puts Floyd nowhere near goat status.

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          #194
          Originally posted by djtmal
          The part that is conveniently left out is Shane Mosley was a year and a half inactive when Floyd finally felt Shane was a safe fight. Proving how low of a risk it was to fight him and the point of the whole thread.

          Floyd certainly has other fights where the cherrypick accusation is harder for Floyd Boys like Dunn to excuse away, so please excuse his redundancy in bringing up this tired piece of history when beating a shopworn Shane Mosley puts Floyd nowhere near goat status.
          Shane was inactive because the Berto fight got cancelled because he lost family members in an earthquake.

          You made the following thread in October 8, 2009, calling for Floyd to fight shane:

          Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


          He fought Shane May 1, 2010, which is about 6 months later. Of course we all remember the truth-Shane refused to fight Floyd when Floyd was low reward, high risk. Floyd fought him next after his September 09 fight comeback fight, sticking to the schedule of fighting on the Mexican holidays because they are the biggest for boxing.

          As I posted you have no integrity or credibility as a poster.

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          • djtmal
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            #195
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Shane was inactive because the Berto fight got cancelled because he lost family members in an earthquake.

            You made the following thread in October 8, 2009, calling for Floyd to fight shane:

            Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!


            He fought Shane May 1, 2010, which is about 6 months later. Of course we all remember the truth-Shane refused to fight Floyd when Floyd was low reward, high risk. Floyd fought him next after his September 09 fight comeback fight, sticking to the schedule of fighting on the Mexican holidays because they are the biggest for boxing.

            As I posted you have no integrity or credibility as a poster.
            Spin it any way you want. Shane was a year and a half out of the ring, inactive, shopworn. I doubt if anybody puts the win for Floyd as anything special, and your never ending battle in protecting Floyd's question marks is as pot calling kettle black as it gets.

            Why you guys feel the need to overrate Floyd's accomplisments is unreal, especially since him beating who he beat, at the time that he beat them, puts him at best among the top 30-50 all time great fighters from legit sources. There's tons of loopholes and question marks guys like Ali, Sugar Ray, etc. don't have. Tons of legit guys like Kellerman who called him a straight cherrypicker, yet you still pretend like Floyd beat all these guys in their prime, and worst of all, it's always the other guys fault in the ducking department.
            Last edited by djtmal; 09-26-2019, 10:59 AM.

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            • CHOWWOKKA
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              #196
              Let's not forget shane wanted Manny. But shane was too good. Meaning manny didnt want to take a risk.

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              • Curtis Harper
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                #197
                Originally posted by djtmal
                Khan won the poll.
                That's all Con was going to win.

                If you haven't noticed, Con melts when facing superior opposition.

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  djtmal made threads calling for Floyd to fight Shane after Shane destroyed Margs. He was confident Shane would win. Floyd fought Shane and beat him. djtmal later called the win a cherrypick. Number of guys called him on this. Irondanhamza completely ethered him about this when he lied about making the thread.

                  You are not dealing with a rational, honest poster with any integrity or credibility. Just keep that in mind when going back and forth with him.
                  When a person questions May's resume, I already know

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    Spin it any way you want. Shane was a year and a half out of the ring, inactive, shopworn. I doubt if anybody puts the win for Floyd as anything special, and your never ending battle in protecting Floyd's question marks is as pot calling kettle black as it gets.

                    Why you guys feel the need to overrate Floyd's accomplisments is unreal, especially since him beating who he beat, at the time that he beat them, puts him at best among the top 30-50 all time great fighters from legit sources. There's tons of loopholes and question marks guys like Ali, Sugar Ray, etc. don't have. Tons of legit guys like Kellerman who called him a straight cherrypicker, yet you still pretend like Floyd beat all these guys in their prime, and worst of all, it's always the other guys fault in the ducking department.
                    You called for the fight in October and Floyd fought him in May. Shane hadn't fought in 9 months when you called for the fight. At no point when you called for it did you say Shane was inactive and shopworn. Now you are saying he got shopworn over the course of 6 months when he didn't fight.

                    No one over rates any wins by Floyd. The reason he is top 15-20 ATG in many polls is because those voters have integrity and credibility and vote based on facts. They remember how boxers refused to fight Floyd when he was low reward and high risk. What they don't do is over rate guys that Floyd didn't fight or change how you judge a fighter once Floyd defeats them.

                    You've been caught lying yet again so now you try and make it about Floyd fans when all the evidence shows the real issue is posters like you that have no integrity or credibility. Your hate for Floyd drives you to make a complete fool of yourself. Same with Hugh Grant and others. Its really embarrassing.

                    As for this thread you can't credibly claim Floyd took no risks when he fought and beat a dude you asked him to fight and picked to defeat him.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                      That's all Con was going to win.

                      If you haven't noticed, Con melts when facing superior opposition.
                      I did notice, that Khan took risks. Something that Floyd was unwilling to do

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