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  • The Big Dunn
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    #221
    Originally posted by djtmal
    Well the man's thread topic is simple. Floyd took no risks. And you still trying to have it both ways spinning it.

    By your own admission Margarito was in essence high risk low reward, Baldimir was low risk, low reward, and Oscar was, I give the benefit of the doubt and say medium risk, high reward. Floyd had time for Oscar and Baldimir but couldn't seem to find time for Margarito.
    I am not spinning anything. I posted what happened. It seems posters like you elevate Margs beyond where he actually was simply because Floyd didn't fight him. His suing TR to leave had nothing to do with Margs.

    Had Bob guaranteed him a fight with ODH and Cotto, he'd have stayed at TR and fought Margs. Then you'd be saying well he never went for the lineal title. You'd find fault regardless of what move was made.

    ODH made time for Floyd, not the other way around. Floyd fought Baldomir over Margs because baldo was the lineal champ and beating him led to the ODH fight, the fight he had been begging to get for years but couldn't because Floyd was high risk, low reward.

    This is what I don't get about you. You know what happened but will lie and leave stuff out to try and fit things into your narrative. Why not just post the truth?

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      #222
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Damn dude your lying has no limit. Utterly disgraceful.
      Bruh your public hate for Manny had no limit.

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        #223
        Originally posted by djtmal
        In my opinion he fit the longer, taller, Zab Judah profile, and Judah gave Floyd fits until he gassed and unraveled, and that was a Judah who already lost to Baldimir.

        So now tell me. Why is it Floyd was able to make the fights with the flat footed Latin guys so quick. You know like Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero, & Marquez
        "Gave Floyd fits until he gassed"

        Did Zab gas in the third round? Zab looked good very early until Floyd figured him out. He couldn't keep Floyd off him, he couldn't find any angles, he was walking into counters. And even though Kahn is no Zab, I'mma be generous and assume Khan picks up some early rounds on Floyd until he starts getting timed and the body shots add up, then it's light out for Khan. Serisouly. Y'all really think a guy that got smacked around by Chris Algieri ever posed a threat to Mayweather? Come on

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          #224
          I have to give you kudos Daggum, I've been ripping you up for at least 9 years and you've never blocked me like some of these other *******. You've got some real cajones.

          On to the premise of the post. Floyd was the best fighter on the planet. Who would he be an underdog against? The only way that would happen is if he had moved up to 160.

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            #225
            Originally posted by djtmal
            Bruh your public hate for Manny had no limit.
            we all know I hate Manny the fighter. Same as I hate the Yankees, Football Giants, 49ers, and some others. Its "sports hate". Only his idiot minions and dudes who have no integrity take that as personal hate.

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              #226
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills
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              On to the premise of the post. Floyd was the best fighter on the planet. Who would he be an underdog against? The only way that would happen is if he had moved up to 160.
              Its easy to be an underdog if you want to be. Floyd didn't want to be. He didn't want to achieve things people didn't think he could. Floyd wasn't a risk taker. He could fight Nelo in mexico, lets see if Floyd would have been underdog. He could have fought Pac in philipines, im sure hed be underdog. But as the thread starter rightly points out Floyd isn't a risk taker. Hes mr , get things in favour cautious

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                #227
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                I am not spinning anything. I posted what happened. It seems posters like you elevate Margs beyond where he actually was simply because Floyd didn't fight him. His suing TR to leave had nothing to do with Margs.

                Had Bob guaranteed him a fight with ODH and Cotto, he'd have stayed at TR and fought Margs. Then you'd be saying well he never went for the lineal title. You'd find fault regardless of what move was made.

                ODH made time for Floyd, not the other way around. Floyd fought Baldomir over Margs because baldo was the lineal champ and beating him led to the ODH fight, the fight he had been begging to get for years but couldn't because Floyd was high risk, low reward.

                This is what I don't get about you. You know what happened but will lie and leave stuff out to try and fit things into your narrative. Why not just post the truth?
                Again, only Floyd Boys care about what happened and whose to blame. Unbiased fans of the sport care only about the bottom line.

                Had Floyd exercised the same enthusiasm in fighting Margarito, without your excuses, that he did for guys like Baldimir, Ortiz, Guerrero, or Madonna, threads like these would die a quick death.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  Again, only Floyd Boys care about what happened and whose to blame. Unbiased fans of the sport care only about the bottom line.

                  Had Floyd exercised the same enthusiasm in fighting Margarito, without your excuses, that he did for guys like Baldimir, Ortiz, Guerrero, or Madonna, threads like these would die a quick death.
                  We agree. Unbiased fans care about the bottom line. You don't. That is why in this thread I post what I did. If you posted an unbiased opinion I'd have no reason to respond. Instead you lied so I felt compelled to answer those lies with facts.

                  Why does he have to show "the same enthusiasm" to fight Margs given the actual situation?

                  No, these threads wouldn't go away because what you and others do is elevate the guys Floyd didn't fight because it is the only way you can criticize him. Since Floyd beat all the guys you asked him to fight the best way to take away from his wins is to say he would lose fantasy fights or create the illusion he was "afraid" of guys he didn't fight by elevating them to a level they never achieved.

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                  • djtmal
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                    "Gave Floyd fits until he gassed"

                    Did Zab gas in the third round? Zab looked good very early until Floyd figured him out. He couldn't keep Floyd off him, he couldn't find any angles, he was walking into counters. And even though Kahn is no Zab, I'mma be generous and assume Khan picks up some early rounds on Floyd until he starts getting timed and the body shots add up, then it's light out for Khan. Serisouly. Y'all really think a guy that got smacked around by Chris Algieri ever posed a threat to Mayweather? Come on
                    Keep it real. Zab Judah was in the fight until he gassed. Even Floyd said as much in the postfight interview. Actually said they knew Zab was a frontrunner.

                    Your assessment is typical of Floyd fandom i.e. how you think a fight would have went without Floyd actually fighting the guy, and he had an opportunity to fight the guy.

                    The reality is, Khan was a guy in Floyd's division who Floyd seemed to avoid for some strange reason. Floyd has a lot of guys who fit the same profile that he avoided. Margarito, Williams, Khan. All guys who stylistically and dimension wise Floyd would have problems with. He don't get no style points for woulda coulda shoulda.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      We agree. Unbiased fans care about the bottom line. You don't. That is why in this thread I post what I did. If you posted an unbiased opinion I'd have no reason to respond. Instead you lied so I felt compelled to answer those lies with facts.

                      Why does he have to show "the same enthusiasm" to fight Margs given the actual situation?

                      No, these threads wouldn't go away because what you and others do is elevate the guys Floyd didn't fight because it is the only way you can criticize him. Since Floyd beat all the guys you asked him to fight the best way to take away from his wins is to say he would lose fantasy fights or create the illusion he was "afraid" of guys he didn't fight by elevating them to a level they never achieved.
                      I have no reason to lie about you wishing death on Manny. I just am not going to the depths you Floyd Boys go to with digging up posts from 20 years ago.

                      It's not non Floyd fanboys problem if you Floyd Boys can't come to grips with adverse opinions on how Floyd's career is perceived. When one batch of Floyd excuses don't work, here comes another batch.
                      It is what it is. Some feel it's the greatest thing they ever saw, other feel it's the greatest batch of risk adverse cherrypicking.

                      And honestly, nobody had to elevate any of the guys that Floyd found to be risky. That's just your latest excuse that sounds good at the moment
                      Last edited by djtmal; 09-26-2019, 02:38 PM.

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