Can someone explain how Kovalev is the weakest at 175?

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  • j0zef
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    #21
    He's 36, with a known drinking problem, weakness to the body, and got KOd twice by guys with 50% KO ratio?

    Sure, you can try to play the resume game and talk about Kovalev being amazing. Fact is that Kovalev hasn't looked good since the 1st Ward fight. Not sure if all the mental games broke him, or he just lost sight of everything, but he fought a good fight against Ward the first time and absolutely gassed in the 3rd round in the 2nd fight. He hasn't looked the same since.

    Plus, if you want to play the resume game (which means absolutely nothing), here's one - Kovalev's resume sucks. It ****** in 2015 and it still sucks. His best wins are 48 year old Hopkins and Jean Pascal. Bivol beat Pascal too. He beat Chilemba, Barrera and Smith Jr too.
    Gvozdyk was the only one to actually KO Chilemba. He also KOd Stevenson.
    Beterbiev has the weakest resume out of the 4, and is 2nd oldest. He's also least skilled (IMO), but he makes up for that with best power out of the 4.

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    • Beterbiev#1
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      #22
      Originally posted by j0zef
      He's 36, with a known drinking problem, weakness to the body, and got KOd twice by guys with 50% KO ratio?
      1. Stevenson was over 40 when Gvov beat him, but you count that victory.

      2. Were you one of the one's that said the only reason Ward " KO'd" Kovalev was due to low blows?

      Sure, you can try to play the resume game and talk about Kovalev being amazing. Fact is that Kovalev hasn't looked good since the 1st Ward fight.
      KO'ing Shabranskyy in the 2nd round and KO'ing Yarde with a jab aren't good wins? But you count Bivol's victory over Pascal who has been past it since he fought Kovalev?


      Plus, if you want to play the resume game (which means absolutely nothing), here's one - Kovalev's resume sucks. It ****** in 2015 and it still sucks. His best wins are 48 year old Hopkins and Jean Pascal.
      Were you saying Kovalev's resume ****** before he fought Ward or like many fans on other boards, were you claiming Ward would duck Kovalev?

      And if Kovalev's resume sucks, then exactly what do you call Bivol and Gvov's resume?



      Bivol beat Pascal too
      So you count this win for Bivol after Pascal had already been stopped twice by Kovalev and beaten by Alvarez? I won't even mention the Gonzales fight and the war with Bosse.

      He beat Chilemba, Barrera and Smith Jr too.
      Bivol beat Chilemba after Chilemba already lost to Kovalev.

      Beating Barrera and Joe Smith Jr are why Canelo should fight Bivol instead of Kovalev? If you say Kovalev's resume sucks I can only imagine what you'd do to Bivol's if he were to lose to Canelo.


      Gvozdyk was the only one to actually KO Chilemba. He also KOd Stevenson.
      He retired Chilemba in the corner, I wouldn't saybhe knocked him out. Oh, And he beat Chilemba after Kovalev already beat and dropped him.

      You call Kovalev old, but give Gvov credit for beating an even older and inactive Stevenson? What sense does that make? Are you also going to turn a blind eye to the fact that Jack had Stevenson out on his feet one fight prior?

      Did you also forget how Gvov was almost KO'd by Tommy K?

      You'll turn a blind eye to these facts, but will say that Kov is old and was almost out against Yarde.
      Last edited by Beterbiev#1; 09-19-2019, 08:56 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by j0zef

        Plus, if you want to play the resume game (which means absolutely nothing),
        Wait a minute, did this guy just say resumes mean nothing

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        • Superbee
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          #24
          1- Beterbiev
          2- Bivol
          3- Gvozdyk
          4- Kovalev

          I believe Bivol gets away with Gvozdyk and Kovalev by decision if he's not phased out early...

          No way any of them get through Beterbiev on a good night... Too much power from the inside and a great Boxing IQ that most deny him still...

          Deal with it ...

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          • STREET CLEANER
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            #25
            Kovalev has lost by stoppage a couple of times and appears to be war torn. The others are undefeated and gives you the illusion that they are better.

            Kovalev has learned from his loses and look how better he is boxing now. Father Time may catch up to him because it appears that he is at the end of his career.

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            • Beterbiev#1
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              #26
              Originally posted by Superbee
              1- Beterbiev
              2- Bivol
              3- Gvozdyk
              4- Kovalev

              I believe Bivol gets away with Gvozdyk and Kovalev by decision if he's not phased out early...

              No way any of them get through Beterbiev on a good night...

              Deal with it ...
              And you base this theory off what facts, evidence and opponents?

              I hope you're not using Jeff Paige Jr and Callum Johnson in your theory.

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              • El_Mero
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                #27
                The ts must not watch boxing. 4 wins out of the last 7, 2 of those losses by tko/ko. Kovacs is passed his prime on the steep slide.

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                • Beterbiev#1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                  Kovalev has lost by stoppage a couple of times and appears to be war torn.
                  Kovalev was KO'd in the amateurs with headgear. Was he over the hill before his career began?

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                  • Beterbiev#1
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El_Mero
                    The ts must not watch boxing. 4 wins out of the last 7, 2 of those losses by tko/ko. Kovacs is passed his prime on the steep slide.

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                    1. Were you one of the guys that said Kov beat Ward in their first fight and that the 2nd fight was a KO from low blows?

                    2. Kovalev avenged his 2nd loss.

                    3. Kovalev was also KO'd in the amateurs and hurt by Hopkins.

                    4. How do you feel about Gvov almost being KO'd by Tommy K and Beterbiev being dropped twice in 12 fights against low opposition?

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                    • Beterbiev#1
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                      #30
                      I see a lot of inconsistencies, shaking, shifting and moving the goal post on this forum.

                      Here's my theory: The same guys that said Kovalev beat Ward in their first fight and said Kovalev was only KO'd in the 2nd fight due to low blows were in an effort to discredit Ward, now, these are the same guys that are counting Ward's wins in an effort to discredit Canelo if he were to beat Kovalev.

                      These are sad tactics used by today's boxing fans. One might ask why are they discrediting Canelo? Well, it all goes back to GGG and the effort to hype him and put him on a pedistil. I guess one can't hype Golovkin without discrediting Canelo.

                      This is one big and sad tangly web of deceitful, ungrateful new generational boxing fans.

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