Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder-Ortiz Dangerous, But Haymon Had To Do It

[Squ□redCircle34]

Surprised Ortiz hasn’t fired his manager!

That version of Joshua would’ve gotten the guillotine by King Kong and he would’ve been the first Cuban heavyweight champion and essentially a legend!

Never understood why he didn’t take it, hopefully one day he’ll explain why cuz it was a risk that would’ve paid off!

[Bmore18]

Enjoyed the first fight, Ill probably enjoy the rematch. Hell of a lot more intriguing than the Fury fight.

[juggernaut666]

All you have are statements from Wilder. So let me print a few below. Thus me asking if you believe Wilder? A simple yes or no will suffice but childlike responses are your norm.

You may be a paid shill...let me fall back.


Wilder: “I would not fight Anthony Joshua for all the money in the world.”

Wilder: “Its not about the belts no more, I don’t care about the belts, I’ve got the WBC baby, I don’t care about Joshua and I don’t care about his belts.”

Wilder: “The PBC will freeze you out”

The topper!

Wilder: “ I Still Want Joshua Fight If He Loses Ruiz Rematch”

Do you believed Wilder? A simple yes or no would suffice because they can't all be true.

You would think the wilder dummies had learned their lessons a long time ago when they support a liar like Wilder they become one to. lol

My favorite one is "we cant sign a contract with no date or venue ,who does that " D.Wilder


Wilder YOU do. lol

[Ake-Dawg]

All you have are statements from Wilder. So let me print a few below. Thus me asking if you believe Wilder? A simple yes or no will suffice but childlike responses are your norm.

You may be a paid shill...let me fall back.


Wilder: “I would not fight Anthony Joshua for all the money in the world.”

Wilder: “Its not about the belts no more, I don’t care about the belts, I’ve got the WBC baby, I don’t care about Joshua and I don’t care about his belts.”

Wilder: “The PBC will freeze you out”

The topper!

Wilder: “ I Still Want Joshua Fight If He Loses Ruiz Rematch”

Do you believed Wilder? A simple yes or no would suffice because they can't all be true.

Your response is a little off base as I asked you about the validity of Arum statement. I never challenged what he said because I have no way of determining if he is lying.

Somehow you're trying to make this about Wilder and Joshua, which furthers my su****ion that you are a paid shill. It's a complete stretch to say Wilder wanted to avoid the Ortiz rematch when he has talked about it unsolicited since the fight happened so you must be getting paid to facilitate such an argument.

[juggernaut666]

Your response is a little off base as I asked you about the validity of Arum statement. I never challenged what he said because I have no way of determining if he is lying.

Somehow you're trying to make this about Wilder and Joshua, which furthers my su****ion that you are a paid shill. It's a complete stretch to say Wilder wanted to avoid the Ortiz rematch when he has talked about it unsolicited since the fight happened so you must be getting paid to facilitate such an argument.

If Arum was lying don't you think team Wilder/Haymon would call him out? You have next to zero credibility on here ,all you do is pander to wilder and pick and choose quotes that you deem true gtfoh...lol...You really don't think much but you're a wilder fan its expected.


If Arum was lying it would cause a rift between the two negotiation parties because THEY are the ones Arum/Haymon making the fight,do you think Haymon would let lies be told about his fighter and not respond ?

somebody just hit you with direct Wilder quotes and he probably took it easy on you ,but you still shift it away from Wilders character of LYING ALL THE TIME

[LCRUMMY36]

This first fight was classic.. It happened on my birthday.. According to dillian "b-sample" whyte.. Ortiz was 40,000 years old a year and a half ago.. Yet this fool fought chisora twice, browne, Parker, and helinus.. Rather than the 40,000 year old smoke. Atleast AJ offered the man the fight! If I was Ortiz I would have taken the AJ fight.. Because if he beats AJ.. It automatically means a rematch with Wilder! If he loses to AJ.. Its more money than losing to Wilder.. When u lose to Wilder.. U spend most of your money on medical bills! Lol.

I think the money for AJ was ok, it was the clauses that Ortiz team balked at. Ruiz wasn't getting a title shot anytime soon, while Ortiz at least knew he could be another shot at Wilder because their on the same team.

To be honest, if that was Ortiz in the ring with A.J instead of Ruiz, A.J could have been seriously hurt...

[eco1]

If the first fight didn't have the ref and everyone else involved in giving Wilder 4 hours to recover, he would have lost. What makes Ortiz think he will get a fair share in the 2nd fight?

[Beercules]

The first fight was good. I'll watch the rematch.

[Ake-Dawg]

If Arum was lying don't you think team Wilder/Haymon would call him out? You have next to zero credibility on here ,all you do is pander to wilder and pick and choose quotes that you deem true gtfoh...lol...You really don't think much but you're a wilder fan its expected.


If Arum was lying it would cause a rift between the two negotiation parties because THEY are the ones Arum/Haymon making the fight,do you think Haymon would let lies be told about his fighter and not respond ?

somebody just hit you with direct Wilder quotes and he probably took it easy on you ,but you still shift it away from Wilders character of LYING ALL THE TIME

You do realize that Arum just made the statement this week and any negative impact would be impossible to ascertain right now. Secondly, Haymon never speaks to the media and that's the accused party here so your no response theory is shot.

I guess all of you are going to forget that Hearn said Ortiz manager kept asking for more money. I guess Hearn was lying then to help cover for Haymon promise to give Ortiz a Wilder rematch. It's funny how Bob is a liar to you guys until he says something about Haymon or Wilder.

[Scipio2009]

Fury didn't pull out , he gave Wilder over a month to agree to a location which was already a U.K rematch , so the only spinning here is from the uneducated fan base.

Do you guys really think Fury would say no to a multi Million ESPN deal just because Wilder negates his own.promise.if fighting Fury in the U.K and demanded a Barclays center location ? Ha

Remember keep the same energy in February when Fury takes his title.

Frank Warren publicly stated that the money for the rematch was bigger I the US than in the UK, Warren/Fury then went quiet, and two weeks of quiet later, the ESPN deal magically manifests, lol.

The rematch goes on ice, Fury looks to get three BS fights for himself in the interim, and now Arum finds a way to get a piece of a monster fight, in a division that he'd just given up on.