Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder-Ortiz Dangerous, But Haymon Had To Do It

[*Makaveli*]

Fury didn't pull out , he gave Wilder over a month to agree to a location which was already a U.K rematch , so the only spinning here is from the uneducated fan base.

Do you guys really think Fury would say no to a multi Million ESPN deal just because Wilder negates his own.promise.if fighting Fury in the U.K and demanded a Barclays center location ? Ha

Remember keep the same energy in February when Fury takes his title.

Fury said he will never fight in the UK again , a few months ago he was dressed as uncle sam pretending to be a Yank now he's running around in Mexican colours pretending to be Mexican . Iv never seen him wearing the Union Jack or talking up his Britishness . Just a convenient excuse for his duck of the rematch

[Ake-Dawg]

You clearly didn't read the article and missed the part where Haymon maneuvered an Ortiz fight for telling Ortiz team to decline the AJ fight which was done initially by asking for 10 million. Ha

Maybe you missed the part where the article is summarizing Arums statement, not Haymons words or Ortiz words. So essentially you are saying that a known lying MUST be telling the truth this time. Even if what he is saying doesn't align with how the Ortiz Joshua negotiations unfolded earlier this year.

[Sledgeweather17]

I'm not ignoring it. You're trying to ignore that Wilder turned the fight down recently by deflecting. Fury wouldn't be fighting Wallin if Haymon/Wilder accepted the fight.

Yes he would, because Arum had already announced that Fury would fight three times before they consider the Wilder rematch. This is just Arum, without proof, spreading lies like he has done, I dunno, like a thousand times.

You would think people would see through "we need to build a new stadium" by now.

"Wilder fighting a top five opponent, Fury is fighting a top 60 opponent. What should I do? Oh I know, I'll justify it to the idiotic Fury fans while simultaneously finding a way to make it seem Wilder's top five choice of opponent is because he ducking Fury. Haymon never talks to the press so he won't say shieet to defuse my lies" Arum thought with a devious smirk.

[Sledgeweather17]

Fury didn't pull out , he gave Wilder over a month to agree to a location which was already a U.K rematch , so the only spinning here is from the uneducated fan base.

Do you guys really think Fury would say no to a multi Million ESPN deal just because Wilder negates his own.promise.if fighting Fury in the U.K and demanded a Barclays center location ? Ha

Remember keep the same energy in February when Fury takes his title.

Nice try, but you fail again. The rematch was only going to be in the UK if Wilder lost the first fight. He didn't lose, therefore no UK. Simple logic.

Also, at the time Fury pulled out, the UK issue had already been resolved, the contract was ready to be signed and Fury stalled until Arum came through to save him.

Don't spin facts on me, ain't gonna work I ain't no casual.

[Travis scott]

Did you not comprehend the article ? Arum is saying he wanted Fury to fight Wilder but he had obligations forced by Haymon to fight Ortiz who is dangerous.

It's the same Fury you accusing of ducking when Wilder can't even fight him until after Ortiz as Arum has exposed all the details in the article. Ha

Wilder is building a legacy by ducking undisputed for 100 million because of Haymon and now to go beat up a 50 year old he already did in 2017 ? Ha

You don't live in reality do you

[Travis scott]

You just posted a link of 2 months after the fight which contradict everything you said.

According to you Wilder wanted an immediate rematch yet failed to comply with the U.K location , therefore Fury should decline a multi million contract with Arum which includes a Wilder rematch at any point which can't be now because Wilder is forced into an Ortiz fight ? And Fury is ducking yet will be fighting Wilder in February ?

You can't make this up . Ha

Nobody wants to fight in the UK anymore not even uk boxers

[Bronx2245]

Bob Arum is right, Al had to do the right thing, and on top of that, Ortiz is very deserving (just as much as Fury) of a rematch! Salute to Ben Davidson! Classy comments! Although Ortiz is older, he's still better than Schwarz!

February 28, 2019:

Arum had hoped to sign Wilder (40-0-1, 39 KOs), who says he is a promotional and network free agent, and have him and England's Fury (27-0-1, 19 KOs) fight separate bouts on two different cards on ESPN+ in May or June with a contract in place for a fall rematch.

But Wilder preferred to go directly the rematch, and his team rejected Top Rank's offer, reasoning that they could simply do his next fight on their own without Top Rank. Shelly Finkel, Wilder's co-manager, told ESPN on Tuesday that Wilder will defend his belt in the spring, preferably on May 18, against an opponent to be determined. "Hopefully, they will do the same thing and build up Wilder on whatever platform they have for his next fight," Arum said.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...atch-goal-fall

[REDEEMER]

Nice try, but you fail again. The rematch was only going to be in the UK if Wilder lost the first fight. He didn't lose, therefore no UK. Simple logic.

Also, at the time Fury pulled out, the UK issue had already been resolved, the contract was ready to be signed and Fury stalled until Arum came through to save him.

Don't spin facts on me, ain't gonna work I ain't no casual.

Wilder did lose , he even said he watched the fight again and it was hard to determine are you denying that too ? Wilder himself can't admit he won .

Wilder claimed to be a real world champion but went back on his word stalled for nearly 2 months . He also said he didn't know if it would be his next fight in the ring....It's on video right after the draw was announced, but we're supposed to believe it was Fury who stalled the rematch ? Ha

It's not hard spinning anything on you, you guys are dizzy 24/7 on here , no effort needed .

[Travis scott]

I'm not sure you guys know how to read that link has nothing to do with anything immediately after the first fight or what Wilder did to stall the rematch before Arum was involved that was posted 2 months after the fight which proved my point . Ha

The fight NOW is not possible until.Wilder fights Ortiz so keep believing the Wilder lies that's what you post daily on here .

you just mad uk boxing is turning to crap

[Oldskoolg]

Chuffed to see Arum and Haymon working together and being so complimentary regarding their potential to make fights. The virtual merger of ESPN, FOX, and Showtime to promote fights would be massive