Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder-Ortiz Dangerous, But Haymon Had To Do It

[Fire4231]

Defaulting to name calling and dismissing is a sign of weakness. Make your point, back it up and be open to picking up more knowledge as you go along. I've been wrong, I said Canelo would never fight Jacobs, I was proven wrong, not the end of the world. I have even sniped at people because I was frustrated and I know it's not cool. But I don't need to be right all the time because the absolute need to be right at all cost unusually ends up costing everything.

Wise thinking brother. Very wise thinking.

[sicko]

No problem with Ortiz getting a good payday for himself and he is still a quality and dangerous opponent who others would rather just call him OLD instead of actually fighting him

If anything Arum is admitting that they're purposely playing it safe with Fury as well as other Top Rank Fighters

[jackblack008]

If I remember correct Ortiz was with Hearn for sometime and Joshua kept being protected.

[Mateuz asato]

Did you not comprehend the article ? Arum is saying he wanted Fury to fight Wilder but he had obligations forced by Haymon to fight Ortiz who is dangerous.

It's the same Fury you accusing of ducking when Wilder can't even fight him until after Ortiz as Arum has exposed all the details in the article. Ha

Wilder is building a legacy by ducking undisputed for 100 million because of Haymon and now to go beat up a 50 year old he already did in 2017 ? Ha

Was loving this until I got to last paragraph

[Straightener]

If I remember correct Ortiz was with Hearn for sometime and Joshua kept being protected.

They were trying to build Ortiz up as a credible opponent for Joshua but he stank the place out

[factsarenice]

The article clearly states that Al Haman told Ortiz to refuse the fight with Joshua and Al would give Ortiz a Wilder Rematch. Maybe Ortiz could have been unified champ, Maybe Wilder could have and maybe Miller could have...but nobody wanted to fight AJ and if Ruiz wins, the major money opportunities are gone for good.

Surprised Ortiz hasn’t fired his manager!

That version of Joshua would’ve gotten the guillotine by King Kong and he would’ve been the first Cuban heavyweight champion and essentially a legend!

Never understood why he didn’t take it, hopefully one day he’ll explain why cuz it was a risk that would’ve paid off!

[Mateuz asato]

Nothing you say can spin the fact that we wouldn't even be here if Fury hadn't pulled out of an immediate rematch with Wilder that was signed and ready to go.

Also, since when is Arum a voice of truth.

Do you really think it's a coincidence Arum comes up with this bull shieet to discredit Wilder and Hamon just before his guy is about to fight a total bum? Should we forget him clearly stating that Fury won't fight Wilder even though the wbc ordered the rematch and that Fury will have three more fights before they consider the rematch?

Should we forget that "I was lying then but I'm telling the truth now" said and did all that ish to delay the rematch?

Hmm......since when did arum become a voice of truth?
Now, that's a question worth answering

[factsarenice]

Joshua offered Ortiz 7 million, Ortiz decided to fight someone else for much less.

If I remember correct Ortiz was with Hearn for sometime and Joshua kept being protected.

[factsarenice]

Ortiz fought Wilder for $300,000. Hearn offered Ortiz 7 million and he said no. Can't force him, he said no.

They were trying to build Ortiz up as a credible opponent for Joshua but he stank the place out

[Scipio2009]

"Haymon talked Ortiz out of fighting Joshua in exchange for a rematch." WTF...this means the excuse about being low-balled, not enough time, not enough money, the trainer saying Ortiz didn't know or that the Ortiz management made a rookie mistake was all just straight up Bull Shlt to cover up a deal that was already made ....amairight?

That also explains why Wilder said Joshua is being frozen out.

Why are you taking Arum's word as truth when Arum, himself, let the world know that all he does is bull****?

How would Arum even know? He's not really friendly with Eddie Hearn, he does no business with the folks backing Luis Ortiz, and he doesn't even have a real in we DAZN either. Lol