Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder-Ortiz Dangerous, But Haymon Had To Do It

[factsarenice]

Actually it was the Ortiz camp that said Hearn made a 7 million dollar offer.

Jarrell got that publicly stated offer (no source saying that that was actually offered to Ortiz's camp in writing) in writing, and Ortiz is levels better an opponent than Miller was, lol.

Top 5 rated, nationally/internationally known heavyweight, and a legitamizer of the event, yet Hearn chose to pinch pennies? gtfoh

[factsarenice]

Nobody else is going to offer Wilder 120 million and Wilder can't move on from that.

1. Deontay Wilder is a principal in any discussion about a fight for Deontay Wilder, so his word is first-hand information (Wilder/Finkell/Haymon is the core team, DiBella is still in the mix, and he's got the relationship with Espinoza).

Wilder got a bull**** offer and moved on.

Wilder stands on his word, and he believes every bit of it; doesn't mean that Shelly Finkell can't have Wilder's demands, keep the line open to Barry or Eddie, and come back to Wilder with a new offer to consider.

And it doesn't mean that Wilder still can't say no.

Make up whatever statement you want

[factsarenice]

It's not that you have a different opinion, you just make shlt up. You manufacture the most speculative, fabricated nonsense in the entire forum.

Why are you taking Arum's word as truth when Arum, himself, let the world know that all he does is bull****?

How would Arum even know? He's not really friendly with Eddie Hearn, he does no business with the folks backing Luis Ortiz, and he doesn't even have a real in we DAZN either. Lol

[factsarenice]

You mean you didn't even read the article? That explains why your posts seem like some sort of peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand..lol.

What article, lol?

[DaNeutral.]

That makes no sense,your an idiot.
It's must be less belts more money.

if that makes no sense to you then your the idiot. Ortiz would of been payed more money to face Joshua on DAZN and he would fight for 4 world titles.

Instead he turned that down, Thanks to Uncle Al, and now he is going to payed less by uncle Al to face Wilder for 1 belt.

How did that not make sense?

[Scipio2009]

Nobody else is going to offer Wilder 120 million and Wilder can't move on from that.

Deontay Wilder's first PPV did over 350k PPVs in the US for his first PPV (depending on what numbers you believe, the value of the US TV rights was $12m in that scenario), and he's set to head into his second PPV fight, with an even bigger profile heading into his second PPV.

Deliver a good event and win, and Wilder's likely heading into his third PPV with the weight of US sport hyping his fight.

Whether Wilder ends up with $120m is between Wilder and his camp; still, fate is in his hands.

Apparently got $15m for the Breazeale fight, will likely top that with his take on the Ortiz 2 ppv, and then is looking at the Fury PPV which should bring in even more that that for Wilder, with the PPV shot against the Ruiz-Joshua 2 winner turning Wilder into a made man doing forward.

You're a fool if you don't think that Wilder can't fight his way to something near that $120m, fighting on his own terms, lol.

[Scipio2009]

It's not that you have a different opinion, you just make shlt up. You manufacture the most speculative, fabricated nonsense in the entire forum.

Does Bob Arum have a good relationship with Eddie Hearn? Outside looking in, with the further synergy between Arum and Warren, it would appear as if Arum has long ago picked the UK party that he's hitching his company to.

Does Bob Arum have a good relationship with any of the decision makers at DAZN?

Does he talk with Haymon regularly?

What exactly did I make up? There are only so many people who are in that principals conversation about a Wilder-Joshua fight, and Arum isn't on good terms with any of them.

[Scipio2009]

You mean you didn't even read the article? That explains why your posts seem like some sort of peasant joke that I'm too rich to understand..lol.

You're going off of statements made by Bob Arum, without corroboration from anyone else but Bob Arum, lol.

How the **** would Bob Arum know **** about the talks between Hearn and Ortiz's camp, or Ortiz's camp and Al Haymon, when Bob Arum doesn't talk with any of the principals in those conversations either?!

[Scipio2009]

if that makes no sense to you then your the idiot. Ortiz would of been payed more money to face Joshua on DAZN and he would fight for 4 world titles.

Instead he turned that down, Thanks to Uncle Al, and now he is going to payed less by uncle Al to face Wilder for 1 belt.

How did that not make sense?

Wilder-Ortiz 2 is a PPV fight; and Ortiz has likely gotten his fair piece of the show; if you think that Ortiz's piece on the PPV is going to be worth less than the $7m that Hearn only talked about, come out and say it.

With Wilder-Fury having cleared over $25m for the fighters, I bet that you'd be wildly off.

[5000boxing]

He will be spending all his money on his daughters medical bills as I understand she has something rare/or she's disabled. So I think the end of your comment was well low below the belt.

Nah.. I'm not talking bout Ortiz daughter.. Nor does the statement pertain only to Ortiz.. This goes for all fighters who fight Wilder.. their Medical bills go up dramatically after fighting Wilder!