Why Don't You Wanna See Canelo GGG 3? & Who's The Better Fighter Of The Two?

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  • Shape up
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    #41
    Not 1 poster had mentioned that ggg has a new trainer, that could also put a whole new spin on the 3rd fight

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    • 4truth
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      #42
      Originally posted by ReggieKray
      I think the whole IBF, GGG vs Derevy, put even more space between GGG and Canelo 3. If Canelo already didn't like GGG, then GGG and DAZN concincing Dervey to not take the Canelo fight so he could get stripped, is only gonna make things worse..
      I don’t really believe Canelo’s decision to fight or not fight Golovkin has anything whatsoever to do with his personal feelings for him. I believe he’s still too much risk and he can’t leverage any sort of advantage on the scale.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper
        I'd rather be off by money than COMPLETELY OFF, bro

        Danny was ok weight wise.
        Danny was okay and Chavez was okay, Fielding was okay and I’m certain that Kovalev will be okay, right?

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        • MPDKSAB
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          #44
          Originally posted by yankees7448
          I think GGG won the first fight but barely lost the second. I want a third fight. I do think Canelo is legitimately better. His speed gave GGG a hell of a lot of problems in the second fight. GGG's insane heart made what was looking like a white wash into a real dogfight.
          As a person who knows GGG won both fights I officially saw slippage in GGG in the 2nd fight. So I'm of the mindset that while it's boxing, anything can happen, GGG still may be dangerous: that Canelo would beat him & beat him not only for the 1st time, but beat him pretty clearly the 3rd fight for multiple reasons. The main being GGG's age.
          Originally posted by Rob Barrett, Sr
          Thanks for a good unbiased post/thread my friend...I know you like Andrade, but these two did have two good fights and have some unfinished business...hope they all start to mix it up at 160-168.
          Idk if you're trying to imply I'm bias or not but just because Andrade is my favorite fighter doesn't mean I'm bias. I truly believe the things I say about him or any other fighter for that matter..I call it How I see it.
          Originally posted by BLASTER1
          They definitely need to make this 3rd fight next year or not at all.
          Whats the point in Canelo beating a 39 Yr old GGG.
          To me I would watch a 3rd fight but it's not gonna prove anything to me at this point in terms of the better fighter. From a business standpoint I think the longer they wait the less interest the public has. Which is a big part of the reason I made this thread. I know why I personally don't want to see it next but I see more & more people saying they don't wanna see a 3rd fight as time goes by. I have my su****ious as to why but I'm not sure.
          Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
          They fought twice already and it was close both times. If they fight a third, guess what, itll be close.
          People just want a third fight because their guy didnt win.
          And that is the absolute objective truth.
          Not necessarily, I don't agree. I think some just want to see it because the 2nd fight was so good. Some just want to see a good fight.
          Originally posted by ddeg10
          I think it's definitely at least 1-1 and on my first watch I felt 2-0 for GGG. But the 2nd fight was closer. GGG I think clearly loses the 3rd fight but Canelo wants to make sure by making him wait which will just slow him down further.
          I sorta agree with this but I also think as I did last year that they will never fight again regardless. The time for them to fight again was this weekend. The politics are growing so like I said the likelihood a 3rd fight drops the more they wait.
          Originally posted by Real King Kong
          At this point, it’s too close to call. Conventional wisdom would dictate the younger fighter having the advantage. If it was a prime ggg, he edges the version of canelo he faced. The fact that it was decided by the slimmest of margins with a clearly past prime ggg tells me who the better of the 2 is.
          I agree with some of this
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          ... because GGG was happy enough to take that big "Canelo money" in the 1st and the 2nd fights... and because he didn't attempt to do anything "dramatic" in those two fights -- waiting for even more money in the "trilogy"...

          ... I can understand "business decisions", but I only like truthful and all-in boxing fights...
          You're like the only one who actually answered why you don't wanna see it. (Which was the main objective I was trying to find out from the public) But honestly your explanation doesn't even make sense. You know much shtick the boxing world woulda gave GGG if he didn't fight Canelo at all!??! & The 2nd fight in general had drama in it...
          Originally posted by ReggieKray
          I think the whole IBF, GGG vs Derevy, put even more space between GGG and Canelo 3. If Canelo already didn't like GGG, then GGG and DAZN concincing Dervey to not take the Canelo fight so he could get stripped, is only gonna make things worse..
          The 3 ways he could've kept his IBF belt were:

          1. Have his representatives respond to that IBF letter
          2. Agree to & actually fight Demetrius Andrade.
          3. Fight Jermall Charlo

          He did none of the above so although I think Derevyanchenko immediately getting a 2nd mandated title shot from the jump is pure politics. Canelo had opportunities to keep his belt if he really wanted to.
          Originally posted by Shape up
          Not 1 poster had mentioned that ggg has a new trainer, that could also put a whole new spin on the 3rd fight
          Almost not 1 poster answered the original question either.

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          • MPDKSAB
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            #45
            I've seen many times "I don't want/need to see a 3rd fight". But I rarely if ever seen why? I'm sure people that have commented & voted in this thread have said this & damn near no one answered why they don't wanna see. The education system has failed the NSBC.

            THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE SAYING YOU DON'T WANNA SEE A 3RD FIGHT. WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT⁉⁉🤔

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            • jimisawesome
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              #46
              I am ok without a 3rd fight. While I will watch it and the first 2 where entertaining and the next one could be more entertaining watching Canelo put even more hurt on ggg. That is a trade of with hearing yet more crying from triple b-side pulling his diva act, more bad sportsmanship watching him run from the ring post fight, hearing all 27 of his fans make excuses about how the boxing writers totally had it for BBB-side or how it was Vegas or how Venus was not in proper alignment or what ever else excuses they can come up with.

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              • ruedboy
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                #47
                Most unbiased fans know at worse GGG should be 1-0-1 in the 2 fights.
                Golovkin was the champ and deserves a rematch.
                For all the BS diva fans spout, they never mention how the diva, beat up and gassed, was the guy with his back against the ropes and trying to hold in the late rounds of the second fight.
                The second fight was a great fight, what other MW would be able to push Alvarez the way Golovkin did?
                What other group of fans (besides diva fans) would applaud their fighter for giving up his national holiday to avoid fighting another boxer?
                Last edited by ruedboy; 09-12-2019, 02:52 PM.

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                • AKAcronym
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                  #48
                  Sounds like the Canelo fans who don't want to see a third fight sound like they're giving excuses because they don't feel so confident about his chances. If Golovkin improves under Banks and the nutritionist has given him some youthfulness, the odds of Canelo replicating the performance of the rematch don't seem likely. He had to fight his best fight and still barely came out victorious, while looking like the more exhausted fighter in the second half. Add to that the knee issues and his weight jumping, assuming Golovkin hasn't shown major signs of slippage, the fight is still a toss up. His fans would much rather him lose to a bigger fighter than lose to Golovkin.

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                  • Boxing_1013
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MPDKSAB
                    Idk if you're trying to imply I'm bias or not but just because Andrade is my favorite fighter doesn't mean I'm bias. I truly believe the things I say about him or any other fighter for that matter..I call it How I see it.
                    Not at all my friend...was just giving you some credit for this thread, sincerely...I also like how impressively Andrade beat Sulecki, and am looking forward to his next fights

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Rob Barrett, Sr
                      it would be interesting to see if he can build on his success there...to see if GGG is slowing down any, or if he can slow GGG down any, or if GGG has a different gameplan with a new trainer as well, and can maybe land a telling shot on Canelo.
                      Originally posted by Shape up
                      Not 1 poster had mentioned that ggg has a new trainer, that could also put a whole new spin on the 3rd fight
                      Not to pat myself on the back or anything

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