Comments Thread For: Dillian Whyte Unlikely To Box Until Being Cleared, Says Hearn

[andocom]

This is Hearn Double-Speak ......

Whyte was cleared to fight Rivas after the revelation that his sample was found to be tainted.

Was he only cleared to fight Rivas for the one fight\one night and then he would go back into an uncleared state?

What kind of madness is this????

Whyte wasn't cleared just for one fight, thats not how this works, he also doesn't have an ADRV against him and he doesn't have a provisional suspension so he is cleared to fight right now.

VADA can notify everyone involved of an adverse finding as they don't follow WADA rules and aren't compulsory, they are a private business who can't suspend or sanction anyone.

UKAD are a government funded WADA signatory, they have to follow the WADA rules, and the rules are pretty clear.

After an adverse analytical finding they notify interested third parties (Rivas is not one), these parties and bound to confidentiality.

Athlete has the right to a request an expedited hearing with the independent tribunal NADP, Whyte did this and after evidence was not provisionally suspended, he is free to compete.

If after full hearing a rule violation (ADRV) is found, the results and sanction is published by UKAD.

I'm not defending Whyte, he may be guilty, I'm just pointing out the process, and who makes the decisions, its not the BBBoC, its not Matchroom, it is NADP who are independent of boxing entirely.

The amount of ignorance and misinformation about this is just astounding, when its really not that complicated and the same for all sports in most countries covered by WADA.

If anyone really cares just read this, its not that hard to understand.
https://www.ukad.org.uk/violations/results-management

[nacho daddy]

dillian "aint" whyte is a cheat

[KillaCamNZ]

It's a f**king mess. Whyte absolutely, 100% is going to be let off without punishment - because at the end of the day, if UKAD does punish him, then they are effectively saying they screwed up by letting him fight.

Whyte's punishment is in the hands of people who have every reason under the sun to let him off, for their own benefit.

[Monty Fisto]

Whyte wasn't cleared just for one fight, thats not how this works, he also doesn't have an ADRV against him and he doesn't have a provisional suspension so he is cleared to fight right now.

VADA can notify everyone involved of an adverse finding as they don't follow WADA rules and aren't compulsory, they are a private business who can't suspend or sanction anyone.

UKAD are a government funded WADA signatory, they have to follow the WADA rules, and the rules are pretty clear.

After an adverse analytical finding they notify interested third parties (Rivas is not one), these parties and bound to confidentiality.

Athlete has the right to a request an expedited hearing with the independent tribunal NADP, Whyte did this and after evidence was not provisionally suspended, he is free to compete.

If after full hearing a rule violation (ADRV) is found, the results and sanction is published by UKAD.

I'm not defending Whyte, he may be guilty, I'm just pointing out the process, and who makes the decisions, its not the BBBoC, its not Matchroom, it is NADP who are independent of boxing entirely.

The amount of ignorance and misinformation about this is just astounding, when its really not that complicated and the same for all sports in most countries covered by WADA.

If anyone really cares just read this, its not that hard to understand.
https://www.ukad.org.uk/violations/results-management

Only sensible post so far. Well done for pointing to actual facts (as opposed to typing FACTS followed by a bunch of speculation, ill-informed guesswork and subjective opinion).

[MDPopescu]

You would think some journalist from the boxing world would have called and asked VADA "How is that UKAD found these metabolites, and you did not?" They should have made a statement at the minimum!

VADA cleared both men to fight, that's all they needed to say. And like everybody else involved, they are not legally allowed to say anything in public about an ongoing UKAD case.

I thought that VADA was formally responsible with that clean boxing program with WBC... or not?

[EnglishOxide]

It's a f**king mess. Whyte absolutely, 100% is going to be let off without punishment - because at the end of the day, if UKAD does punish him, then they are effectively saying they screwed up by letting him fight.

Whyte's punishment is in the hands of people who have every reason under the sun to let him off, for their own benefit.

Read the post above you ffs.

UKAD couldn't punish him.

An independent organisation, the government funded NADP, which covers ALL SPORTS cleared him to fight.

[Toffee]

"It is not even known whether Whyte has requested the B sample from his June 17 test to be checked."

How can he be cleared without B sample testing results? Those results should be released by now, and if it wasn't even tested, then that's even worse!

What will the B sample tell you? Why is it worse that they may not have tested it?

The whole B sample thing is media (especially this site) fun and games.

My understanding is that Whyte accepted the test result and opted for an immediate hearing... which cleared him to fight.

You don't even know what the finding was. Yet you're up in arms about a cleared fighter.

[Bronx2245]

I thought that VADA was formally responsible with that clean boxing program with WBC... or not?

Exactly! If they're part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program, and the WBC sanctioned the fight, I think they should make a statement telling us how many times they tested each fighter, and when! I think J-Rocks demands insinuates that VADA is not testing enough, or beginning early enough, to actually be an effective deterrent to PED cheats! Salute to J-Rock Williams!

[MDPopescu]

Exactly! If they're part of the WBC Clean Boxing Program, and the WBC sanctioned the fight, I think they should make a statement telling us how many times they tested each fighter, and when! I think J-Rocks demands insinuates that VADA is not testing enough, or beginning early enough, to actually be an effective deterrent to PED cheats! Salute to J-Rock Williams!

... OK... that's it...

[Bronx2245]

What will the B sample tell you? Why is it worse that they may not have tested it?

The whole B sample thing is media (especially this site) fun and games.

My understanding is that Whyte accepted the test result and opted for an immediate hearing... which cleared him to fight.

You don't even know what the finding was. Yet you're up in arms about a cleared fighter.

Yes, I am "up in arms" because:

a) Only Whyte's Team was notified regarding the test results

AND

b) Only Whyte's Team were present at the hearing! Rivas' Team was never notified that a hearing was taking place!

The "B sample" test would prove that the "A sample" was accurate! What do you mean "Whyte accepted the results?" He denies using PEDs! Now if none of the above bothers you, then you're obviously very biased in Whyte's favor!