Serious question for many GGG 'haters'

[hmc87]

Guys like me? I called this a solid fight when it was announced. Haven't criticized it in any way. Have also criticized anyone claiming he's ducking.

The real issue is the posters like you have created a false narrative that all criticism of GGG is race based and no matter what is posted you look at the posters name, make a decision if they are black or Mexican, if they are you immediately go with assumptions and group labelling.

Nearly all of Borat supporters behave like this. Its racism and they use the exact same tactics as Pac fanboys did. Travesty and waste of human space

In other news the actual fight between Borat and Dervenchenko should be good and I'm happy both guys stepped up. Was surprised by Borat who ducked Sergeiy in the past, but am happy hes hopefully beyond the Vanes and Rolls of the world...probably expecting too much XD

[Boxing_1013]

Exactly(if one sucks the other is not far behind) why cant others understand that??? They crap on fighters whose legacy will depend on how they do vs these other fighters. Nice post and wish more would think same.

Yep...thank you...well said with the bold...

[Boxing_1013]

This is essentially a digital version of sucking dick. Jesus

Nearly all of Borat supporters behave like this. Its racism and they use the exact same tactics as Pac fanboys did. Travesty and waste of human space

In other news the actual fight between Borat and Dervenchenko should be good and I'm happy both guys stepped up. Was surprised by Borat who ducked Sergeiy in the past, but am happy hes hopefully beyond the Vanes and Rolls of the world...probably expecting too much XD

Lol..how can you really hate on GGG when many people saw him beat Canelo twice...seems odd to me...but do you

Name calling makes you look small and childlike btw

[hmc87]

Lol..how can you really hate on GGG when many people saw him beat Canelo twice...seems odd to me...but do you

Name calling makes you look small and childlike btw

Many people saw Canelo win twice, but he had to settle for 1-0-1.

[KillaMane26]

I have no problem with the fight...and tbh i didnt see too many people complaining about either

[QueensburyRules]

So GGG gets slighted by many on here for wanting a fight (and a rematch after two competitive/controversial fights) with the consensus best (outside of GGG imo) MW in the world...and when that fight doesn't come he decides to take on a guy pretty clearly ranked in the top 5 (Dervy would probably be number 4 imo... below Andrade but ahead of Charlo if I had to rank them right now).

But for some, GGG should have fought the guy ranked 3rd or 5th instead...they say GGG is 'ducking' these guys...they say that Charlo, for example, really wants the GGG fight, and that GGG not fighting him, and choosing to fight Dervy, constitutes a duck and they want to slight GGG for that.

Charlo goes on to fight Brandon Adams and Dennis Hogan...Dennis Hogan being a career 154 pound fighter and Brandon Adams the same guy they were ready to kill GGG for when GGG was rumored to fight him.

So to break it down - when GGG wants to fight the top guy, and the top guy doesn't want it...and GGG decides to fight the number 4 guy instead...somehow the top guy doesn't get any real blame, in part because he is rumored to be facing a quality opponent, yet GGG is still given criticism here.

When Charlo 'wants' (for the record I don't really think Charlo or GGG 'wants' that fight...low reward and fairly high risk to both - especially considering other options) to fight the top guy (in GGG), and the fight doesn't happen, and Charlo decides to fight a literal 'who'...no one gives Charlo any real criticism for that.

So when you want to fight a top guy and the fight doesn't happen...and you instead fight the number 4 guy...then you receive criticism.

But when you 'want' to fight a top guy and the fight doesn't happen...and you instead fight maybe the number 10 guy from the previous weight class...somehow you are good?

Andrade has more of a case imo after fighting Sulecki...but no one should really give him a pass either if he doesn't fight someone good in his next fight...and again...why don't Charlo and Andrade fight each other?? Lol....seems like it would solve the case of them both needing a good opponent.

The truth of course is that Charlo Andrade and GGG would all fight each other...and would all be competitive fights in some ways if they fought...those fights are rather high risk and low reward for all participants...they all want the Canelo payday but Canelo as the cash king has other options always, and is looking in other directions.

To act like any of those guys/their teams really want to mix it up right now is silly imo...and maybe some in reading this thread will realize they are not really keeping it real with their critiques...we can all root for who we want and have our own opinions.

But when some have vastly different takes on very similar situations, it is just not a good look...and we shouldn't really present our opinions on here as if they were factual...just doesn't lead to productive discussions.

- -You gotta thing for Charlene and Androgynous.

That's what hotel rooms are for.

[Boxing_1013]

Many people saw Canelo win twice, but he had to settle for 1-0-1.

The point my friend is that you call GGG names and appear to think very little of him...and the man that you revere had two very tough fights with him...how you can hate on one's level and love the other is non-sensical

[Boxing_1013]

- -You gotta thing for Charlene and Androgynous.

That's what hotel rooms are for.

Lol wow never been accused of being a Charlo or Andrade fanboy...that's a first...anyone who doesn't give them at least a chance to beat GGG or Nelo right now is just very biased imo...I would favor GGG and Nelo to win those fights but the only KO would likely come if GGG and Charlo fought...and Charlo has a shot to KO G as well.

And no one is beating Andrade 12-0...he could get KOed too though, never really had the chin tested at the highest level...but I don't see how anyone can pick Canelo to dominate or stop him...Andrade is same level as Trout/Lara/Jacobs and we saw how those fights went.

[Boxing_1013]

I have no problem with the fight...and tbh i didnt see too many people complaining about either

I guess sometimes a small percentage of posters can be the most vocal..maybe making it seem like there is more opposition to the fight than there really is

[hmc87]

The point my friend is that you call GGG names and appear to think very little of him...and the man that you revere had two very tough fights with him...how you can hate on one's level and love the other is non-sensical

I dont hate GGG the fighter at all. Hes a great fighter, but his attitude and personality are horrible. And his fans, you, are even worse. So I belittle the prick.

Triple L ducked Andre Ward after saying "anyone from 154-168" and directly said Andre Ward can happen...Andre Ward accepted then LLL needed a catchweight, but would still fight Froch and JCC Jr. at 168. That's called ducking.

Then the REVERSE happened. Borat/LLL called out Canelo and Cotto who were both smaller fighters. They requested a Catchweight (just like Borat did with Ward) and Borat refused them both. Borat even refused WW KELL BROOK who wanted 157, but Diva Borat refused THAT TOO.

So Borat requesting a CW against a larger fighter is the LARGER fighter ducking...and...smaller fighters requesting CW with Borat is the SMALLER fighters ducking. How does that even make sense?

DIVA Borat can do no harm in the minds of his fanboys. It's insane.