Serious question for many GGG 'haters'

[aboutfkntime]

With all due respect man...in the same post...you said before that if GGG fought SD, then it proved he only fought certain styles...and then if he didn't fight him, it proved that he ducked him and was scared of him.

Case in point that GGG literally can't win with some posters on here...and it's fine, I just think being a little more conscious of your biases would hopefully help some guys keep it a little more real.

For the record - fighters almost every fight take the highest reward/lowest risk fight there is...there is a reason why Floyd didn't fight Spence after Spence busted up his eye in sparring...that was a much better fight than Berto...but Berto sold better and was an easier fight.

And I think it is splitting hairs in a way to choose among Andrade, Charlo and SD...though I do feel SD is the best matchup for GGG...but they are pretty clearly top 5 right now...anyone saying Andrade/Charlo really wants the GGG fight, yet GGG doesn't, I don't really see the logic there

nope

I said... IF it was up to Golovkin, he would not be fighting Derevyanchenko at all

but IF the choice is Andrade, Charlo, or Derevyanchenko... then Derevy it is

he is simply taking the easiest fights available

that has been CLEARLY obvious for years man

[aboutfkntime]

Wanting to fight the other best guy in the division after a razor thin decision in a good fight that fans want to see again, and also happens to be arguably the biggest fight in the sport = “begging for a handout” lol. This is what fans of the sport should want.

Also, derev is not a “****ty opponent selection”...but the fact remains, he’d be fighting canelo if he wasn’t being swerved. But yea, canelo’s opponent for his mexican sept date is so much better...oh wait.

stop blaming Canelo whenever Bullshltkin lies to his idiot fanbase

G is taking the easiest possible fight... just like he has ALWAYS taken the easiest possible fight

YOU KNOW that he aint gonna unify with Andrade/Charlo

you know this already

[aboutfkntime]

I am critical of GGG not due to hate, but due to him and his team contradicting themselves at every turn when they talk crazy. From the andre ward fight not happening excuses to criticising canelo for fighting khan (but he decided to fight brook in the same year instead) to being the mexican style culture vulture to the abandoning of getting all belts narrative due to clout chasing canelo. He just needs a better PR team so that he doesn't look like a walking contradiction every time he speaks. This is the same guy who says that he wants to be a promoter after his career is over, and he can't even talk for ****.

bingo !!

[aboutfkntime]

I think it is fair to point out some things you mentioned...I just think in even those things you said, there is quite a bit of nuance there.

Tbh I don't really know how anyone can honestly try and say GGG 'ducked' Ward..I never really understood that narrative or how that even started...just kind of came out of nowhere imo...the timing, weight class difference, injuries/issues Ward had etc...I mean from what I've gathered I think Ward comes out looking worse there than GGG...just my opinion.

Brook and Khan is a good point...but Brook was a late replacement to save the date after Eubank fell through...it wasn't like he specifically picked him...Brook was a last chance and Khan was a first option.

Mexican style was pandering in a way but he did have a Mexican trainer who pushed that angle as much as GGG did.

And yes he did tout the belts and promoted himself that way...it was smart and I think at the time genuine...but it's just smart as well to abandon that philosophy to take the huge pay day, especially when you are at the end of your career and the one time payday is worth more than you've made in your entire career.

Promoter wise he probably wants to help the guys from his part of the world navigate the industry...he obviously would need to improve his English a bit to be a big time promoter...but I think the Klitscho bros are promoters as well and have similar language issues...GGG as a promoter is probably him knowing he can attract good talent with his name, and he can provide some value to the talent and also make some money.

you are just a shltty Golovkin fanboy

all of the signs are there

including when you insisted that Golovkin has faced better opposition than almost any other fighter in history lol

[The Big Dunn]

Jacobs has moved up to 168 and has never showed any sign of wanting to fight GGG again anyway.

Lol at you calling Charlo a possible opponent for Golovkin!

The truth is that whichever one of those 4 GGG made a deal to fight would have been seen as the "easiest" by guys like you. That's the way it works.

If not Canelo, then Dereyvanchenko is very obviously the best option for now, for many reasons, one of them being entertainment value.

Guys like me? I called this a solid fight when it was announced. Haven't criticized it in any way. Have also criticized anyone claiming he's ducking.

The real issue is the posters like you have created a false narrative that all criticism of GGG is race based and no matter what is posted you look at the posters name, make a decision if they are black or Mexican, if they are you immediately go with assumptions and group labelling.

[Real King Kong]

stop blaming Canelo whenever Bullshltkin lies to his idiot fanbase

G is taking the easiest possible fight... just like he has ALWAYS taken the easiest possible fight

YOU KNOW that he aint gonna unify with Andrade/Charlo

you know this already

Is canelo the easiest possible fight? That’s the fight they were trying to make before canelo swerved and gave up his date.

What exactly has charlo done in the mw division to prove he’s better than anyone...lose to korobov? Lol anyone who ggg isn’t fighting becomes the boogeyman. You’re a clown.

[mathed]

Just call it what it is, the Asian has the wrong skin tone. Clenela is carrying on Flroid’s legacy for vicarious fans.

It’s sad but there is no need to decorate it up.

[Boxing_1013]

you are just a shltty Golovkin fanboy

all of the signs are there

including when you insisted that Golovkin has faced better opposition than almost any other fighter in history lol

No hard feelings but gotta give ya the block for now man...until you can debate people without getting really emotional and nasty, I don't want that type of stuff littering up my threads...all for a good debate, but you try to insult anyone who disagrees with you and it is not a good look

[john l]

I agree with you John...even PED cheats seem to have their bad deeds forgotten by most and are forgiven by the fans...I don't really understand the blind hate some fighters get on here...I guess you could say I am a 'fan' of GGG...but even then how can I hate on Canelo...they had two good fights...if Canelo sucks then GGG can't be that far behind him.

Exactly(if one sucks the other is not far behind) why cant others understand that??? They crap on fighters whose legacy will depend on how they do vs these other fighters. Nice post and wish more would think same.

[hmc87]

I think it is fair to point out some things you mentioned...I just think in even those things you said, there is quite a bit of nuance there.

Tbh I don't really know how anyone can honestly try and say GGG 'ducked' Ward..I never really understood that narrative or how that even started...just kind of came out of nowhere imo...the timing, weight class difference, injuries/issues Ward had etc...I mean from what I've gathered I think Ward comes out looking worse there than GGG...just my opinion.

Brook and Khan is a good point...but Brook was a late replacement to save the date after Eubank fell through...it wasn't like he specifically picked him...Brook was a last chance and Khan was a first option.

Mexican style was pandering in a way but he did have a Mexican trainer who pushed that angle as much as GGG did.

And yes he did tout the belts and promoted himself that way...it was smart and I think at the time genuine...but it's just smart as well to abandon that philosophy to take the huge pay day, especially when you are at the end of your career and the one time payday is worth more than you've made in your entire career.

Promoter wise he probably wants to help the guys from his part of the world navigate the industry...he obviously would need to improve his English a bit to be a big time promoter...but I think the Klitscho bros are promoters as well and have similar language issues...GGG as a promoter is probably him knowing he can attract good talent with his name, and he can provide some value to the talent and also make some money.

This is essentially a digital version of sucking dick. Jesus