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Originally posted by Phenom View PostLost respect for Ward being the only one in super 6 not fighting on the road but after Froch v Dirrell I don't blame h
Froch is not squeaky clean when it comes to hand wraps and certain other enhancers, shall we say.....
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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View PostRocky IV - you answered your own question. Especially when you have been talking about Russian interference in your elections all the time and there's Reds under the beds etc etc. At no point has there ever not been anti-Russian propaganda (not that a lot of it isn't deserved)
Tell me George Foreman wasn't all over the TV advertising grills decades ago. If you are a 'respectable' black fighter you get props. Anyone who knows Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods will know there is no barrier for sports people if you are the right kind of black and you are successful
There's a difference between a white Russian and a white American. And as for Ward/Kov 2. What colour was the referee who stopped the fight?
And if you were smart you'd already know what country I am from.
The fact that there is supposedly a “respectable list,” for black athletes speaks to my point that you are as biased as our country.
Kovalev and even Jim Lampley have had physical abuse scandals during their career. Didn’t impact them at all and no one brings it up.
Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods were your examples and they also have had their issues with ******** and Adultry.
So I am fuzzy on what exactly makes one respectable and what makes someone not respectable? And are those rules the same across color lines?
Every human being is flawed in some way. We are here to learn from our mistakes. Yet there seems to be the idea that black people have to be perfect to garner any respect at all? Yet others come to the table and can’t lose respect. I could rest my case on that double standard as it is further evidence of a biased playing field.
Conor McGregor is not only talking trash and losing fights big, he is showing up as a disgusting human being. He just punched an old man for not drinking his gifted liquor. On this day he has 7.7 million followers and despite being an Irish citizen is beloved in America. Where is the backlash?
In addition, Russian fighters have been VERY much accepted in Boxing. Not just Kovalev... Kostya Tzyu, Lomachenko, Vladimir and Vitali Klitschko, Prodvokinov, Bivol etc... all had or have great followings. GGG is from Kazakhstan and considered one of the biggest names in the sport. Not sure where all this nationalistic backlash you speak of in America is hiding?
You talk about collusion with Russia but the guy colluding was voted in and is still in office so where is the Russian hate you speak of?
Andre Ward was as good and respectable as they come. He represented our country and won a gold medal. He is a template great American. Isn’t flashy and won the super six with the least pro experience.
Yet he is still not celebrated today. When he beat Froch many Americans didn’t give him credit even though they all agree he actually won? Where was that black American kicker you speak of? It hasn’t shown up in his paycheck?
Besides HBO wanted Kovalev to win and they were running the show. So who was the source of the fix? Was it Andre’s Church placing payola in the Ref’s hands? The fact we are even debating what was a clear win over Kovalev right now says it all.
Stop bro... it is not about being a good guy, most people have their demons of some kind including the guys mentioned.
It is about some de****able guys limit humanity to people who “look like them.” Nothing else matters and because of that when they have a cultural drought there is no happiness for them in the sport. They will take success from any culture viable.
Or...They just run around trying to sabotage the greatness of others. This is the truth of things bro. Thanks for your time.
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If Ward beat Kov with low blows then what is his damn excuse for losing to Andre Ward and refusing to run it back with him then? The answer is real simple fear.
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Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View PostIts a FIGHT, not badminton. Wake up. There NOTHING civil about it so lets not pretend it is. Most Humans want to see it extinct.
More people would want the sport to be extinct due to all the corruption and crazy people it attracts. You're one of those crazy people.
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Originally posted by Fire4231 View PostBro Bot... how weak are you? You come around a whole week later trying to slide in a dumb ass response under the radar.
You have been all over this site but you just got your confidence up enough to respond. This delayed below par response speaks for itself. Nothing to say just let my comment keep resonating.
Keep getting schooled by this "Bro bot", whatever that is. But nice try little lamb.
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In the 1st fight sure yet in the 2nd Ward getting a stoppage even if the referee didn't wave it off @ the 8th was imminent
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Originally posted by Fire4231 View PostOkay broski,
The fact that there is supposedly a “respectable list,” for black athletes speaks to my point that you are as biased as our country.
Kovalev and even Jim Lampley have had physical abuse scandals during their career. Didn’t impact them at all and no one brings it up.
Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods were your examples and they also have had their issues with ******** and Adultry.
So I am fuzzy on what exactly makes one respectable and what makes someone not respectable? And are those rules the same across color lines?
Every human being is flawed in some way. We are here to learn from our mistakes. Yet there seems to be the idea that black people have to be perfect to garner any respect at all? Yet others come to the table and can’t lose respect. I could rest my case on that double standard as it is further evidence of a biased playing field.
Conor McGregor is not only talking trash and losing fights big, he is showing up as a disgusting human being. He just punched an old man for not drinking his gifted liquor. On this day he has 7.7 million followers and despite being an Irish citizen is beloved in America. Where is the backlash?
In addition, Russian fighters have been VERY much accepted in Boxing. Not just Kovalev... Kostya Tzyu, Lomachenko, Vladimir and Vitali Klitschko, Prodvokinov, Bivol etc... all had or have great followings. GGG is from Kazakhstan and considered one of the biggest names in the sport. Not sure where all this nationalistic backlash you speak of in America is hiding?
You talk about collusion with Russia but the guy colluding was voted in and is still in office so where is the Russian hate you speak of?
Andre Ward was as good and respectable as they come. He represented our country and won a gold medal. He is a template great American. Isn’t flashy and won the super six with the least pro experience.
Yet he is still not celebrated today. When he beat Froch many Americans didn’t give him credit even though they all agree he actually won? Where was that black American kicker you speak of? It hasn’t shown up in his paycheck?
Besides HBO wanted Kovalev to win and they were running the show. So who was the source of the fix? Was it Andre’s Church placing payola in the Ref’s hands? The fact we are even debating what was a clear win over Kovalev right now says it all.
Stop bro... it is not about being a good guy, most people have their demons of some kind including the guys mentioned.
It is about some de****able guys limit humanity to people who “look like them.” Nothing else matters and because of that when they have a cultural drought there is no happiness for them in the sport. They will take success from any culture viable.
Or...They just run around trying to sabotage the greatness of others. This is the truth of things bro. Thanks for your time.
Lol Conor is Irish. Half of white America would identify as Irish if they had even 1% Irish genes. Tom Cruise...
Also its about the character you portray. Conor was funny and entertaining in most of what he did. He was a d*** but a likeable d*** Whereas Deontay Wilder saying he wanted to kill Breazeale in the ring or Tyson saying he was going to murder some guy - that doesn't play well outside of the hardcore supporters.
Russian collusion was not proven. But anyway Trump is a demagogue. A populist. He tells more lies than anyone. But if you tell people what they want to hear they love you. When he said "I love the poorly educated" to a bunch of poorly educated people and they cheered - that said it all. They are still waiting for this wall.... and for 'crooked Hilary' to be put in jail
Ward isn't a crowd favorite because of his style but he's still an American fighting at home and any loss would have ruined his perfect record and pound for pound greatest title at the time. Maybe you should look at the people judging the fight. I don't care enough to google them. All I know is that Kovalev was hard done by in both those fights. And if those fights had been in Russia...Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 09-15-2019, 12:05 PM.
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