Terence Crawford Is More Accomplished Than Canelo Alvarez & Vasyl Lomachenko (Proof)

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  • Sustanon
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    #41
    Originally posted by Stokely
    Terence Crawford
    - 35-0-0, 26 KOs
    - Three Division World Champion (135, 140, 147)
    - Two Division Lineal Champion (135, 140)
    - Undisputed (140)
    - 13-0-0 in World Title Fights
    - 10 Title Defenses

    Vasyl Lomachenko
    - 14-1-0, 10 KOs
    - Three Division World Champion (126, 130, 135)
    - One Division Lineal Champion (135)
    - Never Undisputed
    - 12-1-0 in World Title Fights
    - 10 Title Defenses

    Canelo Alvarez
    - 52-1-2, 35 KOs
    - Two Division Champion (154, 160)
    - One Division Lineal Champion (160)
    - Never Undisputed
    - 13-1-1 in World Title Fights
    - 9 Title Defenses

    Crawford is the only undefeated one out of the three. P4P #1!
    No, just no.
    Crawford is a bum

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    • glenn mcrory
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      #42
      Originally posted by Szef
      Let me translate: Crawford is black, Loma & Canelo are not.
      You gotta have consideration man.
      You cant just stick it all the way in like that.

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      • Tony Trick-Pony
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        #43
        Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
        You’re smarter than this. Even in Canelo’s “controversial” fights that level of adversity is nonexistent in Loma’s resume. Let’s just be honest, in boxing not all weightclasses and opponents are equal. You even said Canelo didn’t have experience in the ams, just like Barrera or Pacquiao, fighting grit early molds a fighter to be great. That’s the reason why no headgear gave a wake up call to Loma when he fought Salido.

        Since Loma’s presence, how many boxing writers have gone gun-ho to report advanced drug testing with Loma fights? Are reporters afraid to get black listed with Top Rank? The world, outside of boxing, knows the history of the Ukraine and Russia with PEDS
        Hhhmmm. Okay. So Trout, old Cotto, old Mosley, washed up JCC Jr(never that good to begin with), two fights with GGG(neither of which I thought he won) all add up to being so much better than GRJ, Walters, Rigo, and Linares? I don't see the huge disparity. Like I said, Canelo's opponents have bigger names. As far as talent and skill, I don't think they're much better if better at all. You guys are seeing names and pumping him up. Say that all the opponents have the same level of poularity. It gets much closer.

        I don't know about drug testing for Loma's fights but Canelo got busted. We do know this for sure. I'm going off evidence-not conjecture.

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        • Tony Trick-Pony
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          #44
          Originally posted by kidbazooka
          Canelo easily more accomplished yet he’s still younger than Loma.

          Case closed.
          No, he hasn't and younger by two years?



          What a joke.

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #45
            Originally posted by Stokely
            Orlando Salido


            It's all you've got.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #46
              Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
              Hhhmmm. Okay. So Trout, old Cotto, old Mosley, washed up JCC Jr(never that good to begin with), two fights with GGG(neither of which I thought he won) all add up to being so much better than GRJ, Walters, Rigo, and Linares? I don't see the huge disparity. Like I said, Canelo's opponents have bigger names. As far as talent and skill, I don't think they're much better if better at all. You guys are seeing names and pumping him up. Say that all the opponents have the same level of poularity. It gets much closer.

              I don't know about drug testing for Loma's fights but Canelo got busted. We do know this for sure. I'm going off evidence-not conjecture.
              Stop with the Cotto is old garbage. Macklin and Geale are about the same age as Cotto. You get the point...

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #47
                Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
                Stop with the Cotto is old garbage. Macklin and Geale are about the same age as Cotto. You get the point...
                Macklin and Geale?

                I was talking about Loma. What have they got to do with him?

                All the eastern Euros are the same doe. Right?

                Although GGG is actually Asian...

                And Cotto was an old 35. He'd been through a lot of wars- Pac, Marg and so forth.

                He's a HOF fighter and a name, but his resume also is not the best. He won most of his titles off of weak opposition in vacant title fights. He's got Mosley and Judah on there but it's not that great imo.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                  Macklin and Geale?

                  I was talking about Loma. What have they got to do with him?
                  You said “old.”

                  How do you not contextualize great fighters the age of Cotto when he fought Alvarez? What’s the age gap between Thurman and Pacquaio?

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
                    Well spoken but incomplete. If you want to go by experience, mgmt, and favoritism then Loma had a more lucky legacy than Rigondeaux.

                    Rigo: 2 Gold Medals, more than 470 am fights, milked his career in the ams as long as it took like Loma.

                    Beating Donaire, whom is bigger than Rigo by far, since let’s be real, Rigo is a Bantamweight having fought at Super Bantamweight. Fake? Not at all. NSB posters going crazy because Arum admitted like a dumbass their careful matchmaking for Loma by saying he still makes 126 easy.

                    So yes, favoritism. Rigo could’ve had the same selective matchmaking like Loma but because this sports thrives on ratings and promoters showing up, HBO wasted Rigo’s opportunity and turmoil because Rigo had to just coast in his contract. And again, Haymon with the salvation picking up fighters to his stable out of empathy to then redo his own style of PBc formulaic business.

                    So, Loma losing to Salido and having Rigo miss his 124 catch opportunity and having a Bantam go to 130 in an advanced drug testing era (Non PAC style)...

                    Bruh, Canelo and Crawford are above Loma.

                    I don’t understand why fans can’t admit circumstances and realistic politics. Loma is a great fighter, entertaining in the ring, high-tech, but when fans become naive like 1000’s in a Texas WWF Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior event from the 90’s, you can’t reason with them because fakeness overrules rational thinking to them.

                    And that’s all she wrote!
                    .

                    Mmm. I must have missed the bit in the OP where they snuck Rigos name into the conversation I guess

                    But yeah, sure, Rigo was horribly promoted by ol Bob and Caribe are either incompetent crooked or both, and Rigo should have got far more opportunities than he did.

                    Still wasn't part of the question I was answering though.

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                      Crawford has more fights. Compare their first 15 fights
                      Compare any of Crawford’s 15 fights lmao

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