Terence Crawford Is More Accomplished Than Canelo Alvarez & Vasyl Lomachenko (Proof)

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  • boxinggod101
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    #31
    Hell no... Crawford resume is trash for a P4P fighter. Very weak. His best wins are shot Khan, Postol and short undersized Gamboa. Stop it

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #32
      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
      I think you mean your throat. Ha

      It's all a matter of opinion.

      Canelo's been a pro for 14 years. Loma's been a pro for 6 years. Canelo didn't do much in the ams and Loma won 2 gold medals and lots of other titles along with going 396-1. Canelo's got decisions before that were controversial while Loma has won decisively in his decision victories.
      You’re smarter than this. Even in Canelo’s “controversial” fights that level of adversity is nonexistent in Loma’s resume. Let’s just be honest, in boxing not all weightclasses and opponents are equal. You even said Canelo didn’t have experience in the ams, just like Barrera or Pacquiao, fighting grit early molds a fighter to be great. That’s the reason why no headgear gave a wake up call to Loma when he fought Salido.

      Since Loma’s presence, how many boxing writers have gone gun-ho to report advanced drug testing with Loma fights? Are reporters afraid to get black listed with Top Rank? The world, outside of boxing, knows the history of the Ukraine and Russia with PEDS

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      • kidbazooka
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        #33
        Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
        I think you mean your throat. Ha

        It's all a matter of opinion.

        Canelo's been a pro for 14 years. Loma's been a pro for 6 years. Canelo didn't do much in the ams and Loma won 2 gold medals and lots of other titles along with going 396-1. Canelo's got decisions before that were controversial while Loma has won decisively in his decision victories. Rigo moved up two weight classes to fight Loma but Khan moved up two weight classes to fight Canelo. They're comparable in a lot of ways. I think Canelo has more star power on his resume but that's it. Cotto and Mosley were past it and smaller men when he fought them. Mayweather wasn't prime either but I though Canelo was a bit green. Loma also doesn't have the PED **** hanging over his head. Gotta go with Loma at this point, but of course, everyone has a different opinion.
        Canelo easily more accomplished yet he’s still younger than Loma.

        Case closed.

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        • Stokely
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          #34
          Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
          I don't know why you anti-Loma guys don't try to argue in court and make some money rather than pissing away your time on here trying to make us Loma fans non-fans. Ain't gonna work. I'd be a fan of his now no matter what, just to spite the anti-fans and your crystal clear narrative.

          Loma's on top.

          Get the **** over it.

          Orlando Salido

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          • Citizen Koba
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            #35
            Canelo has the best resume in the pro ranks though you gonna put a coupla asterisks in there, Bud has the most significant accomplishments in the Pro ranks (double undisputed) and ain't ever looked close to losing and Lomachenko has the greatest accomplishments in the overall sport (pro and am) by a wide margin.

            None of this actually tells us which of them is the best fighter P4P if you subscribe to that silliness though, and I'll repeat the mantra that I always do in such cases - resume is at least as much about opportunity as it is about ability... you can only fight the dudes gonna get in the ring with you.

            Bud has the weakest resume of the 3 (dude lucked out in the JWW unification stakes by having Indongo do half the work for him), but he's also the dude received the weakest promotional push, Canelo was being groomed for stardom from his very early 20s and Loma was being promoted as a star from the get go.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 09-02-2019, 05:40 AM.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #36
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
              and Lomachenko has the greatest accomplishments in the overall sport (pro and am) by a wide margin.
              Well spoken but incomplete. If you want to go by experience, mgmt, and favoritism then Loma had a more lucky legacy than Rigondeaux.

              Rigo: 2 Gold Medals, more than 470 am fights, milked his career in the ams as long as it took like Loma.

              Beating Donaire, whom is bigger than Rigo by far, since let’s be real, Rigo is a Bantamweight having fought at Super Bantamweight. Fake? Not at all. NSB posters going crazy because Arum admitted like a dumbass their careful matchmaking for Loma by saying he still makes 126 easy.

              So yes, favoritism. Rigo could’ve had the same selective matchmaking like Loma but because this sports thrives on ratings and promoters showing up, HBO wasted Rigo’s opportunity and turmoil because Rigo had to just coast in his contract. And again, Haymon with the salvation picking up fighters to his stable out of empathy to then redo his own style of PBc formulaic business.

              So, Loma losing to Salido and having Rigo miss his 124 catch opportunity and having a Bantam go to 130 in an advanced drug testing era (Non PAC style)...

              Bruh, Canelo and Crawford are above Loma.

              I don’t understand why fans can’t admit circumstances and realistic politics. Loma is a great fighter, entertaining in the ring, high-tech, but when fans become naive like 1000’s in a Texas WWF Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior event from the 90’s, you can’t reason with them because fakeness overrules rational thinking to them.

              And that’s all she wrote!

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              • Lomasexual
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                #37
                Originally posted by Stokely
                Orlando Salido
                Name all of the other fighters who you think would have beaten that version Salido in their second pro fight. Or even managed to lose a split decision.

                Can you name any? Even one?

                If your main attempt to discredit Loma is to bring up an effort which almost no-one else in history could have equaled (if anyone) then you are probably grasping at straws.

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                • Lomasexual
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by megh50
                  Loma has the best amateur pedigree having had close to 400 fights and probably has the most wear and tear.
                  I have been wondering about that.

                  Amateur bouts aren't anything like as tough as pro bouts. I think Canelo might have a lot more wear and tear on his body than we think.

                  Canelo is young in boxing years, but old in battles. Right now I think I see him improving still in each fight. Which a guy of his age should be able to do, so that's all ok.

                  But I wonder if his lengthy pro career will take its toll, and if he isn't perhaps older in boxing terms than he seems.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Lomasexual
                    I have been wondering about that.

                    Amateur bouts aren't anything like as tough as pro bouts. I think Canelo might have a lot more wear and tear on his body than we think.

                    Canelo is young in boxing years, but old in battles. Right now I think I see him improving still in each fight. Which a guy of his age should be able to do, so that's all ok.

                    But I wonder if his lengthy pro career will take its toll, and if he isn't perhaps older in boxing terms than he seems.
                    Pacquiao been KO’d 3 times rather nasty in whole career. More wear and tear. Them HGH calf muscles are an amazing specimen too

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                    • Jsmooth9876
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                      #40
                      Canelo has faced more top level competition than probably the other top 4 or 5 P4P guys combined.

                      He may have some close calls or fights that should have went against him but at least he gets in there with top level guys.

                      Crawford didn't have the talent around him at 140 but he accomplished something great for sure but Canelo has way higher level of difficulty against his foes.

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