Proof that Loma has improved since losing to Salido

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  • Marchegiano
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    #31
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
    Then why couldn't other pressure fighters like Sosa who was coming off a KO win of Fortuna not do anything with Loma? Because he improved. Keep hating tho
    What mistakes did he make in the Salido fight that he did not make in the Sosa fight?


    Not saying he hasn't improved, a lot, but him beating a guy who is similar to another guy is not proof of anything other than he beat someone similar. A technical flaw being fixed is proof Loma has improved beyond the specific techniques Salido employed to defeat him.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      Originally posted by KingHippo
      This defeat is going to haunt you forever bwahahahahaha
      This right here. I don't get it. He lost. Big deal. It happens.

      The same guys that always say losses don't matter spend a lot of time trying to justify away the losses of their favorite guys. It is just so childish and immature.

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      • alexnation
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        #33
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        it is clearly obvious that Loma has improved... no proof required

        who wouldn't improve after their 2nd fight... ?

        " improvement " is not what was required to beat Salido

        experience... is what was required to beat Salido

        Loma was elite already... he hasn't learned that much skill-wise, he has developed his game as a pro

        a better matchup, and a better gameplan... would also have helped

        nobody thinks that Salido is better than Lomachenko

        also... if coming in overweight is all you need to do to beat Lomachenko... then he was not as good as advertised

        Arum cut corners... and he paid the price

        FACT: you do not put a total rookie in there with a TOUGH EXPERIENCED VETERAN, who is right on top of his game

        Arum cut corners, because he could see how special Loma was... but you do not break a "given" in boxing, we have already learnt that lesson many times

        as special as Loma is... that was a very difficult situation

        THAT... is why you develop a fighter, rather than throw them to the wolves

        if that fight had happened 10 fights on, when Loma was more settled/experienced in 12-round fights... nobody would be mentioning Salido

        Arum blew it... and Loma learned a valuable lesson !
        yep, exactly. That is the whole situation in a nutshell. Maybe casuals will learn from this

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        • KingHippo
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          This right here. I don't get it. He lost. Big deal. It happens.

          The same guys that always say losses don't matter spend a lot of time trying to justify away the losses of their favorite guys. It is just so childish and immature.
          Who I'm looking for is all these people who are apparently discrediting Lomachenko.

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          • DuckAdonis
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            #35
            Originally posted by KingHippo
            Who I'm looking for is all these people who are apparently discrediting Lomachenko.
            They are right here in this thread. You don't have to look far

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            • CauliflowerEars
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              #36
              Originally posted by DuckAdonis
              Lomachenko destroyed Rocky Martinez when he was coming off a draw and a win over Salido.
              That is a fact. Clear sign Loma improved, when he destroyed a fighter who was on the same level as an opponent he had problems with. Not even talking about the asterisks surrounding his loss.
              This argument to dismiss Loma as a p4p fighter has been debunked.
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
              Theory?
              LOL
              Salido did in fact BEAT Lomafako, Genius.
              What planet are you currently living on?
              I'm assuming you are some young kid who doesn't know any better. Do you see the original TS's quote there ? Do you have any idea of the context of this thread ?
              Either your reading comprehension is not above 3rd grade, or your bias/troll attitude guides your perspective and cognition.
              The theory pertains to Loma being nothing more than a manufactured hype-job bum. The context of this entire thread revolves around Loma's lessons learned in the Salido loss, and his progression since. I've no problem with "Salido beat Lomachenko". Never have. It was the best thing that could have happened to Loma. It's my contention that Salido would lose to Loma 90 days after their first fight. He would then lose again in March of 2015, then 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and any rematch ever to transpire.

              So, before you question what planet I'm from, I suggest you again read the OP's quote, or better yet I'll post it again...
              DuckAdonis --> Lomachenko destroyed Rocky Martinez when he was coming off a draw and a win over Salido.
              That is a fact. Clear sign Loma improved, when he destroyed a fighter who was on the same level as an opponent he had problems with. Not even talking about the asterisks surrounding his loss.
              This argument to dismiss Loma as a p4p fighter has been debunked.

              I live on planet Earth, where some of the all-time greats and best fighters to ever lace up gloves, have losses on their records.
              You can put all the stock you want into that Salido loss. That's your prerogative and your right.
              Just remember that when a fighter you support has a controversial decision or split decision, and you suddenly feel that all losses are not created equal. Context is everything !

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #37
                Originally posted by KingHippo
                Who I'm looking for is all these people who are apparently discrediting Lomachenko.
                To the TS and other Loma diehards, pointing out he lost to Salido is somehow disrespecting him. That is just childish.

                What kills me is the same guys for years regularly posted that the way to beat a great boxer is to brawl and make it an ugly fight.

                Salido did exactly that-he fought nasty, dirty and made it a brawl instead of a boxing match.

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                • Nay_Sayer
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                  Your thread isn't that useful. It makes Loma look real bad. He lost legit to journeyman Salido. He wasn't good enough to beat him. Digest it down and move on.
                  /Thread...

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                  • Nay_Sayer
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
                    Then why couldn't other pressure fighters like Sosa who was coming off a KO win of Fortuna not do anything with Loma? Because he improved. Keep hating tho
                    LMAO

                    If Lomafako were so good, he wouldn't have lost to Salido in the first place.

                    Wake me when Lomafako beats someone of any consequence.

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                    • Nay_Sayer
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CauliflowerEars
                      I'm assuming you are some young kid who doesn't know any better. Do you see the original TS's quote there ? Do you have any idea of the context of this thread ?

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