Proof that Loma has improved since losing to Salido

[KillaMane26]

It is man, but people keep brying it up as a reason why he is not p4p to discredit the guy. So I guess it's still necessary

But those people gonna discredit him anyway. When u have an agenda u gon take what u need for it and disregard whats against it.

Loma is obviously P4P and would beat the breaks off Salido reason why he wanted sweepstakes money to take the fight

[BoxingIsGreat]

I've been a boxing fan for close to 3 decades and I have yet to see a worse "champion" than Rocky Martinez. I almost puked when he was suggested as a choice for Davis. What's his best win? Salido? What's Salido's best win?

I'm also surprised no one pointed out the triangle theory here, which is frowned upon on NSB.

Your thread isn't that useful. It makes Loma look real bad. He lost legit to journeyman Salido. He wasn't good enough to beat him. Digest it down and move on.

[CauliflowerEars]

it is clearly obvious that Loma has improved... no proof required
who wouldn't improve after their 2nd fight... ?
" improvement " is not what was required to beat Salido
experience... is what was required to beat Salido

Loma was elite already... he hasn't learned that much skill-wise, he has developed his game as a pro
a better matchup, and a better gameplan... would also have helped
nobody thinks that Salido is better than Lomachenko
also... if coming in overweight is all you need to do to beat Lomachenko... then he was not as good as advertised

Arum cut corners... and he paid the price
FACT: you do not put a total rookie in there with a TOUGH EXPERIENCED VETERAN, who is right on top of his game
Arum cut corners, because he could see how special Loma was... but you do not break a "given" in boxing, we have already learnt that lesson many times
as special as Loma is... that was a very difficult situation
THAT... is why you develop a fighter, rather than throw them to the wolves
if that fight had happened 10 fights on, when Loma was more settled/experienced in 12-round fights... nobody would be mentioning Salido
Arum blew it... and Loma learned a valuable lesson !

Dude, all this right here ^...breaks down the reality of the situation, straight up.
I've often said that the Salido fight taught Loma and his team, invaluable lessons that would have otherwise taken longer to learn. And just like you said...it came with a cost, an L on the record.

The point is, that most ppl understand and get all that. It's the conspiracy theorists that believe his stardom, P4P rankings, and history-making, was all manufactured and contrived by the powers that be. What is it that is motivating all the "Bumchenko" talk and what not ?
That's where you just scratch your head and go...wtf ?

[Luilun]

He's number 1 P4P

[Diegosome1]

it is clearly obvious that Loma has improved... no proof required

who wouldn't improve after their 2nd fight... ?

" improvement " is not what was required to beat Salido

experience... is what was required to beat Salido

Loma was elite already... he hasn't learned that much skill-wise, he has developed his game as a pro

a better matchup, and a better gameplan... would also have helped

nobody thinks that Salido is better than Lomachenko

also... if coming in overweight is all you need to do to beat Lomachenko... then he was not as good as advertised

Arum cut corners... and he paid the price

FACT: you do not put a total rookie in there with a TOUGH EXPERIENCED VETERAN, who is right on top of his game

Arum cut corners, because he could see how special Loma was... but you do not break a "given" in boxing, we have already learnt that lesson many times

as special as Loma is... that was a very difficult situation

THAT... is why you develop a fighter, rather than throw them to the wolves

if that fight had happened 10 fights on, when Loma was more settled/experienced in 12-round fights... nobody would be mentioning Salido

Arum blew it... and Loma learned a valuable lesson !

Prob your best post over

[boliodogs]

Only dummies and Loma haters keep bringing up the Salido loss as proof he is not that good. It was his 2nd pro fight and Salido got away with dozens of low blows. Many thought Loma won that fight. Since then he has improved greatly and has gotten used to the pros. Salido was offered a rematch many times and he always declined knowing Loma would easily beat him.

[lolpz]

Lomachenko destroyed Rocky Martinez when he was coming off a draw and a win over Salido.
That is a fact. Clear sign Loma improved, when he destroyed a fighter who was on the same level as an opponent he had problems with. Not even talking about the asterisks surrounding his loss.

This argument to dismiss Loma as a p4p fighter has been debunked.

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Who ever argued that he hasn't improved since that fight?

That was his second professional fight ever...

[The Big Dunn]

Obviously he got better since the Salido fight. That was his 2nd pro fight. Every fighter gets better after their 2nd pro fight.

Also, Salido was undoubtedly the most experienced opponent Loma fought so it isn't a surprise that he would look better against subsequent opposition. He is getting better and the opposition isn't as experienced as Salido.

Loma is clearly one of the top 2 p4p boxers in the world. No one credible argues otherwise. Maybe a few have him top 3 or 4 but is that really anything to complain about?

He lost to Salido. He's won every fight since then. His fans should just accept it the loss and stop trying to argue it away or pretend it didn't happen.

[Floyd is TBE]

Honestly the only reason I keep bringing it up is because fanboys would have us believe that Loma was some wet behind the ears rookie that took on an impossible challenge in his second match. That fight showed weakness in Loma, weakness that makes me think the people (like Dan Rafeal and Max Kellerman) picking him to beat a prime Floyd Mayweather at 130 are ****ing crazy.

[Nay_Sayer]

Lomachenko destroyed Rocky Martinez when he was coming off a draw and a win over Salido.
That is a fact. Clear sign Loma improved, when he destroyed a fighter who was on the same level as an opponent he had problems with. Not even talking about the asterisks surrounding his loss.

This argument to dismiss Loma as a p4p fighter has been debunked.

Triangle theories don't work in boxing, Einstein.

Styles make fights.

Fact is, Salido's style of fighting will always give problems to someone who's soft in the ass, like Lomafako..