BJS calls out Kovalev, blocking Canelo fight!

[Sweet Scions]

He doesnt have the style to beat Kov. Kovalev seems to have trouble with pressure and BJS is a weak punching pure boxer. Kovalev would walk his ass down and beat him up. Would love to see it

Sorry, huh? How does Kovalev walk Saunders down? His style is pretty much impervious to that unless his tank runs dry or he gets caught with something big when he tries to pounce in and pop off and gets stunned into a shambling, retreating husk. And Kovalev, like Canelo or Golovkin, certainly has the artillery to do just that with the right shot, but otherwise Saunders deals with him in the same way as the other two - by doing his usual dance and killing them on points. The obvious distinction from a Lemieux or Isufi being they have the means to catch him in the smallest misstep and either take him out or change the whole momentum of the fight in an instant, to the point of making it highly competitive.

Stop it. The reason why Yarde could go the distance was because he has never gone through wars nor taken damage like elites. Those are advantages, especially when you’re bulked up like that most body shots from the Krusher won’t do much affect. Yarde was trying to counter most of the fight and in the TMT gym he rinsed out the shoulder roll so much like a Broner copykat that he became a C+ level defender against Kovalev while it lasted. He even made Kovalev miss at times in combinations from good fundamental work that’s im sure he learned at TMT Gym.

With all that being said, again, you didn’t watch the Shefat vs BJs fight. Shefat had BJs on his bicycle hurt... you think Kova is inferior to Shefat?

Sorry bud, Kova destroys Saunders. BJS looks horrid above 160+. This means that it’s been BJS weight cutting at an advantage at 160. Look at BJS Regularly on Social Media. He walks around like Cruiser.

Stop it is right. I don't know where this delusion that Saunders at 168 turns into a cream soda on legs got traction, but it's ****ing ******. You accuse this guy of not having watched the Isufi fight, then go on to appraise it as if you didn't see it yourself. "On his bicycle hurt"? You say this as though there was even one sustained passage of effective retaliation from Isufi, when you've simply cherry picked the literal 20 seconds of the night that didn't go Saunders way (10 seconds into rd 6, to be exact) in what was otherwise a one-sided thrashing every bit as severe as Lemieux's. Aside from that moment, Isufi had zip, nada.
And sure, that one slip up is one more than we saw against Lemieux, but it was otherwise Lemieux Pt II, and if he didn't look every bit as fresh as then, he was 95% there. Both the Isufi highlights and full Lemieux fight are right there on youtube. I don't see how anyone without a weird agenda watches the two back back to back and concludes with a straight face the former constitutes some huge drop off from the latter. If you're one of the legion that can't stand BJS as a person then fair play, but don't let it lead you into saying basically patently false **** about his current condition or viability as a contender.

[Real King Kong]

Agreed, but I think Kovalev would lose against both Bivol and Beterbiev.

Yes, me too...but so be it. At least whoever comes out on top in the division will have lifted belts from belt holders, not picked up a vacant belt that canelo will undoubtedly drop if he manages to beat kovalev. I wouldn’t blame kovalev one bit for taking that pay day tho.

[TRTboy]

Sorry, huh? How does Kovalev walk Saunders down? His style is pretty much impervious to that unless his tank runs dry or he gets caught with something big when he tries to pounce in and pop off and gets stunned into a shambling, retreating husk. And Kovalev, like Canelo or Golovkin, certainly has the artillery to do just that with the right shot, but otherwise Saunders deals with him in the same way as the other two - by doing his usual dance and killing them on points. The obvious distinction from a Lemieux or Isufi being they have the means to catch him in the smallest misstep and either take him out or change the whole momentum of the fight in an instant, to the point of making it highly competitive.



Stop it is right. I don't know where this delusion that Saunders at 168 turns into a cream soda on legs got traction, but it's ****ing ******. You accuse this guy of not having watched the Isufi fight, then go on to appraise it as if you didn't see it yourself. "On his bicycle hurt"? You say this as though there was even one sustained passage of effective retaliation from Isufi, when you've simply cherry picked the literal 20 seconds of the night that didn't go Saunders way (10 seconds into rd 6, to be exact) in what was otherwise a one-sided thrashing every bit as severe as Lemieux's. Aside from that moment, Isufi had zip, nada.
And sure, that one slip up is one more than we saw against Lemieux, but it was otherwise Lemieux Pt II, and if he didn't look every bit as fresh as then, he was 95% there. Both the Isufi highlights and full Lemieux fight are right there on youtube. I don't see how anyone without a weird agenda watches the two back back to back and concludes with a straight face the former constitutes some huge drop off from the latter. If you're one of the legion that can't stand BJS as a person then fair play, but don't let it lead you into saying basically patently false **** about his current condition or viability as a contender.

Lol look at the names you just typed. BJS has literally never fought an elite level fighter. The man is content beating b and c level fighters. Hell he even admitted once he would lose to GGG and admitted avoiding him lol.

He has zero punching power. I admit he has great defense but Kovalev feasts on defensive minded fighters.

BJS has nothing in his game that troubles Kovalev nothing. Kovalev boxing ability is still being very underrated here. He has obvious flaws like his inside game and his endurance but again BJS does not have the skill set, style or strength to expose those weaknesses

[Sweet Scions]

Lol look at the names you just typed. BJS has literally never fought an elite level fighter. The man is content beating b and c level fighters. Hell he even admitted once he would lose to GGG and admitted avoiding him lol.

He has zero punching power. I admit he has great defense but Kovalev feasts on defensive minded fighters.

BJS has nothing in his game that troubles Kovalev nothing. Kovalev boxing ability is still being very underrated here. He has obvious flaws like his inside game and his endurance but again BJS does not have the skill set, style or strength to expose those weaknesses

I'm aware of the "illustrious" names we're dealing with in mentioning Lemiuex and Isufi. Just so we're clear, I'm not trying to mount some argument that BJS 100% boxes Kovalev's ears off as a sure thing. Saunders very likely stands to be...krushed. And it goes without saying the likes of those two don't have the devastating laser pointer range jab or 1-2 with which Kovalev likes to answer attempts to glide into his personal space. Nevermind sheer power.

What I'm specifically disagreeing with is the idea of Kovalev just walking Saunders down, out of the blue, without the aforementioned catalyst of Saunders getting caught and wobbled (which would likely culminate in a dazed Saunders just getting pummeled into a pile of goo then and there than any sustained retreat, in my mind). That generally requires a relatively stationary opponent content to just retreat on the back foot and hope for the best instead of slipping and sliding around you, which would just be very uncharacteristic of Saunders unless, again, he's been severely compromised with big shots and is basically just drawing out the inevitable Krushing. It's just hard to picture with Saunders in the same way it would be with, say, Andrade in against Kov. So yeah, Kov can most definitely splatter him, but I just don't really see the walk down dynamic playing out there. More likely Saunders getting caught, stunned, rocked with a highlight reel KO. (Or maaaybe he has the night of his life and is able to dodge Kov's lethal jab consistently, and manages to glide in and steal it on the cards...but would I put money on it? Fat chance)

[Sweet Scions]

...And obviously this is all ignoring the obvious question of, on what planet does Kovalev take this fight over a Canelo clash? So it's all academic anyway. I'm Widdit, you hate me now. And over Saunders of all people! Ugh! I like watching him fight, but I'm not sure I'd even want to eat breakfast with the guy.

[Ray*]

Lmao only boxing people. Which fight was Kovalev getting outboxed? Alvarez wasnt out boxing him the 1st fight Kov just lost steam and got caught. And Kovalev dominated the rematch.

I'm asking again do you understand the term styles makes fights? Now look at who has beat Kov and how they beat him and while you're at it check out BJS fights on YouTube.

I have laid it out for you. You obviously cannot see it, that’s why you going back to who he fought in 2015 or who he fought when he lost and got stopped. I don’t want to over analyse this because am a fan of his. It would make it look like a hate Kovalev. So am leaving it right here. My opinion hasn’t change, Kovalev that I know is done, he gets outbox by BJS and Canelo gives him a beating. Honestly both fights I don’t want to see but for his payday I hope the Canelo fight happens and he proves me wrong.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Stop it is right. I don't know where this delusion that Saunders at 168 turns into a cream soda on legs got traction, but it's ****ing ******. You accuse this guy of not having watched the Isufi fight, then go on to appraise it as if you didn't see it yourself. "On his bicycle hurt"?

Stopped reading here.

BigZ44 he must not know we scored this fight in real time on NSB... lol the Shefat fight was a circus fight

And this discussion that BJS can against Kovalev is even funnier

[Sweet Scions]

Stopped reading here.

BigZ44 he must not know we scored this fight in real time on NSB... lol the Shefat fight was a circus fight

And this discussion that BJS can against Kovalev is even funnier

If you appraised it in real time then it just raises the question all the more of what you're going on about with this weird ass assessment. Where's the huge drop off from Lemieux? Where's the slow as a garden slug Saunders? It's practically the same fight. No one is contending it wasn't a complete farce. Just more of the same though. Jesus, quit being weird, you! I mean I get it, Saunders and all. Easy to hate etc.

[4truth]

Saunders isn’t that good and Kovalev isn’t that faded.

To be honest, I don’t believe Saunders even wants the fight.

[TRTboy]

Saunders isn’t that good and Kovalev isn’t that faded.

To be honest, I don’t believe Saunders even wants the fight.

Lol Saunders always does this, he likes to throw his name out there but is never really serious. This man has never fought an elite level fighter.

He is the worst title holder in boxing by a mile. Just a complete con man. He is a title holder at MW but has never fought GGG, never fought Canelo, never fought Jacobs, etc. He's never fought the top level guys and hes been around forever