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  • MusaWorld
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    #41
    Originally posted by kidbazooka
    Again one Mexican alone right now is ****ting all over you’re black fightrrs EASILY!!!!

    I know that hurts you but that alone shuts you’re dumbass argument down.

    Those are facts.

    Nuff said.
    That doesn't shut my argument down at all. The false narrative is that mexicans are keeping boxing alive in America, I challenged it by posting main events headlined by Mexicans that couldn't even draw in a crowd of 5k.

    Your response is that Mexicans come together to watch Canelo fight twice a year. How is one boxer, fighting TWICE a year, who has one demographic of people watching him, keeping boxing alive in America? Your argument is GARBAGE. Also, how is Canelo shtting on Black boxers when he is most known for getting dominated by Floyd Mayweather?

    On top of the weak crowds at Mexican main event fights, let's not forget how god awful Mexican TV ratings are.

    1. Ramirez vs. Zepeda ESPN Card Averages 655,000 Viewers
    Jose Ramirez continues to enjoy a sizeable regional following that ranks the 140-pound titlist among the sport’s best ticket sellers in North America today. Growing his televised audience remains a work in progress. The unbeaten super lightweight barely escaped with his title and perfect record intact following his latest bout


    2. Navarrete/De Vaca, Magdaleno/Rivera ESPN Doubleheader Averaged 471,000 Viewers Saturday Night
    ESPN’s viewership figures from Saturday night are reflective of a low-profile doubleheader that aired during a traditionally sluggish month for television ratings. According to Nielsen Media Research data released Tuesday, an average of 471,000 viewers watched ESPN’s two-bout broadcast from Banc of California Stadium in Los Angeles. Fewer viewers watched promoter Top Rank’s offering Saturday night than its previous telecast July 13 from Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey.

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    • MusaWorld
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      #42
      Originally posted by FredWreck
      Idiotic thread.

      The two biggest days in boxing in the US are both Mexican holidays.
      5th of May and 16th of September.

      Close this thread, and ban the moron who started it.
      No we need to ban your dumb ass for such a weak ass counter argument. The narrative is that mexicans keep boxing alive in America, my response is that most mexican champions cannot even draw 5k fans at their events.

      Mexicans fighting on mexican holidays means jack sht in this debate.

      Dumb ass pac tard

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      • kidbazooka
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        #43
        Originally posted by MusaWorld
        That doesn't shut my argument down at all. The false narrative is that mexicans are keeping boxing alive in America, I challenged it by posting main events headlined by Mexicans that couldn't even draw in a crowd of 5k.

        Your response is that Mexicans come together to watch Canelo fight twice a year. How is one boxer, fighting TWICE a year, who has one demographic of people watching him, keeping boxing alive in America? Your argument is GARBAGE. Also, how is Canelo shtting on Black boxers when he is most known for getting dominated by Floyd Mayweather?

        On top of the weak crowds at Mexican main event fights, let's not forget how god awful Mexican TV ratings are.

        1. Ramirez vs. Zepeda ESPN Card Averages 655,000 Viewers
        Jose Ramirez continues to enjoy a sizeable regional following that ranks the 140-pound titlist among the sport’s best ticket sellers in North America today. Growing his televised audience remains a work in progress. The unbeaten super lightweight barely escaped with his title and perfect record intact following his latest bout


        2. Navarrete/De Vaca, Magdaleno/Rivera ESPN Doubleheader Averaged 471,000 Viewers Saturday Night
        https://www.boxingscene.com/espn-dou...-night--141851
        Floyd is not active he’s gone he not a boxer anymore but man he did love him the Mexicans bet that eats at you too. Lol

        Hate is blinding you’re better judgment badly.

        Canelo ****ts on any of you’re precious black fighters today FACTS!!!!!!

        Repeat after me now...Canelo is boxing!!!!!!

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        • MusaWorld
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          #44
          Originally posted by kidbazooka
          Floyd is not active he’s gone he not a boxer anymore but man he did love him the Mexicans bet that eats at you too. Lol

          Hate is blinding you’re better judgment badly.

          Canelo ****ts on any of you’re precious black fighters today FACTS!!!!!!

          Repeat after me now...Canelo is boxing!!!!!!
          LOL! Look at how you ignored 90% of what I said just to dΐck ride a drug cheat named canelo who already got his ass dominated by Floyd, Erislandy Lara and GGG.

          No matter how many more false narratives you mexicans want to push, the data confirms that American boxing will be the same without mexicans. Zurdo Ramirez is another mexican champion who can't sell tickets for shΐt:

          Ramirez vs. Ahmed, Febuary 3, 2018
          In front of 3,200 in attendance Ramírez retained his WBO title against Ahmed via a 6th round stoppage win

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          • FredWreck
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            #45
            Originally posted by MusaWorld
            No we need to ban your dumb ass for such a weak ass counter argument. The narrative is that mexicans keep boxing alive in America, my response is that most mexican champions cannot even draw 5k fans at their events.

            Mexicans fighting on mexican holidays means jack sht in this debate.

            Dumb ass pac tard
            Musaworld?

            More like YuSoGay!

            Spence sold out the Dallas stadium because of Mikey Garcia’s Mexican fan base.
            Enough said.


            Close thread now please!
            And somebody lasso up this gay boy named Musoworld around here! Tell him not to post any more rubbish and to take the **** out of his ass now!

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            • kidbazooka
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              #46
              Originally posted by MusaWorld
              LOL! Look at how you ignored 90% of what I said just to dΐck ride a drug cheat named canelo who already got his ass dominated by Floyd, Erislandy Lara and GGG.

              No matter how many more false narratives you mexicans want to push, the data confirms that American boxing will be the same without mexicans. Zurdo Ramirez is another mexican champion who can't sell tickets for shΐt:

              Ramirez vs. Ahmed, Febuary 3, 2018
              In front of 3,200 in attendance Ramírez retained his WBO title against Ahmed via a 6th round stoppage win
              And you’re ignoring the fact that the biggest star in the sport the guy who sells the most is a MEXICAN!!!!!

              Say it A MEXICAN!!!!!!!!!!

              Again you’re arguement goes to pieces with that fact alone idiot.

              It’s not that hard to see but of course you’re hate isn’t allowing you to realize that what you’re saying is completely wrong because all I gotta counter with is Canelo is the biggest start in boxing hands down.

              And I thank Mexican haters like you because ppl like you are what’s help make Canelo the biggest star in boxing.

              So you can keep lying to yourself all you want just remember you’re a fan of a Mexican too.
              Last edited by kidbazooka; 08-23-2019, 05:27 AM.

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              • MusaWorld
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                #47
                Originally posted by FredWreck
                Musaworld?

                More like YuSoGay!

                Spence sold out the Dallas stadium because of Mikey Garcia’s Mexican fan base.
                Enough said.


                Close thread now please!
                And somebody lasso up this gay boy named Musoworld around here! Tell him not to post any more rubbish and to take the **** out of his ass now!
                Go back to what you do best: sucking off Pacroid, you foookin soy boy, because you're not fit for this discussion.

                Errol Spence was the one who sold out Cowboys Stadium, not mikey garcia and his mythical mexican fan base.

                Proof #1: Errol Spence had better TV Ratings than Mikey Garcia

                Spence vs. Peterson, January 20th, 2018
                The fight averaged 637,000 viewers and peaked at 695,000 viewers
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/spence-p...on-sho--124567

                Garcia vs. Lipinets, March 10th, 2018
                The fight averaged 618,000 viewers and peaked at 689,000 viewers
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-l...owtime--126177

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                Spence vs. Ocampo, June 16th, 2018
                The fight averaged 683,000 viewers and peaked at 726,000 viewers
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/showtime...iewers--129268

                Garcia vs. Easter, July 28th, 2018
                The fight averaged 680,000 viewers and peaked at 725,000 viewers
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-e...iewers--130478

                NOTE: Errol Spence was fighting a mandatory challenger no one was familiar with and was still able to get a higher average viewership and peak than Mikey Garcia who was fighting a unification fight with Robert Easter who at the time was the longest reigning lightweight champion

                Proof #2: Errol Spence sells more tickets and has larger crowds at his events

                Spence vs. Peterson, January 20th, 2018
                On fight night, in front of 12,107, Spence broke Peterson down mentally and physically eventually forcing Peterson's trainer Barry Hunter to stop the fight a second into round 8.
                source: https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...arclays-center

                Garcia vs. Lipinets, March 10th, 2018
                Garcia's bout against Lipinets drew 7,800 fans at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio
                source: http://fightnights.com/2018/05/18/40...-cow-in-boxing

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                Spence vs. Ocampo June 16th, 2018
                In front of a sellout crowd of 12,604, Spence knocked Ocampo out in round 1 to retain his IBF title.
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-sp...esults--129189

                Garcia vs. Easter, July 28th, 2018
                Before a crowd of 12,560, Garcia dropped Easter in round 3 on his way to a unanimous decision win with scores of 116–111, 117–110 and 118–109, to become the unified WBC and IBF lightweight champion.
                source: https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-ga...esults--130406

                NOTE: Staples Center has a maximum capacity of 21k, but Mikey could only draw in 12,560 fans. Errol Spence drew in a sellout crowd of 12,604. If Spence fought Ocampo in a larger venue, he would've definitely reached the 13k mark.

                Proof #3: Errol Spence has more fans

                Evidence of this is their social media following, neither Errol or Mikey do things outside of boxing which would gain them a significant amount of followers from non-boxing fans so their social media following should be an accurate indicator of how large their fan bases are

                Instagram Followers:
                Errol Spence: 487k
                Mikey Garcia: 262k

                Twitter Followers:
                Errol Spence: 130k
                Mikey Garcia: 111k

                Proof #4: The name "Errol Spence" is more searched than "Mikey Garcia" according to google trends



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                • MusaWorld
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kidbazooka
                  And you’re ignoring the fact that the biggest star in the sport the guy who sells the most is a MEXICAN!!!!!

                  Say it A MEXICAN!!!!!!!!!!

                  Again you’re arguement goes to pieces with that fact alone idiot.

                  It’s not that hard to see bit of course you’re hate isn’t allowing you to realize that what you’re saying is completely wrong because all I gotta counter with is Canelo is the biggest start in boxing hands down.

                  And I thank Mexican haters like you because ppl like you are what’s help make Canelo the biggest star in boxing.

                  So you can keep lying to yourself all you want just remember you’re a fan of a Mexican too.

                  No I didn't ignore anything, In fact I countered your bullshΐt argument with questions and YOU ignored them:

                  "Your response is that Mexicans come together to watch Canelo fight twice a year. How is one boxer, fighting TWICE a year, who has one demographic of people watching him, keeping boxing alive in America? Your argument is GARBAGE."

                  Also, here's another example of a mexican champion that cannot sell tickets to save his life, yet mexicans are keeping boxing alive right? LMAO!

                  Munguia vs. Smith, July 22, 2018.
                  Dangerous puncher Jaime Munguia (30-0, 25 KOs) defended his WBO junior middleweight world championship against former world champion Liam "Beefy" Smith (26-2-1, 14 KOs) via 12-round decision in the main event of HBO Boxing After Dark on Saturday, in front of 2,470 fans at The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas.

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                  • kidbazooka
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by FredWreck
                    Musaworld?

                    More like YuSoGay!

                    Spence sold out the Dallas stadium because of Mikey Garcia’s Mexican fan base.
                    Enough said.


                    Close thread now please!
                    And somebody lasso up this gay boy named Musoworld around here! Tell him not to post any more rubbish and to take the **** out of his ass now!
                    I’m done with that idiot

                    Don’t worry he’ll be banned soon.

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                    • MusaWorld
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by kidbazooka
                      I’m done with that idiot

                      Don’t worry he’ll be banned soon.
                      LMAO! You said you were done like 20 posts ago. Too bad your mexican champions aren't DONE giving out tickets since they can't sell tickets for shet

                      OSCAR VALDEZ MAIN EVENTS
                      Valdez vs. Marriaga, April 22, 2017.
                      Quote:
                      Valdez was able to thrill the 5,419 fans in attendance at the Stubhub Center on his way to a 12 round unanimous decision.
                      Valdez vs. Servania, September 22, 2017.
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                      In front of a crowd of 4,103, Valdez managed to recover from a knockdown and score a knockdown of his own, en route to retaining his WBO title via unanimous decision after 12 rounds.

                      There's no information on how many fans Valdez vs. Quigg brought in but I'm assuming it can't be more than 5.5k based on his last two fights, combined with the fact that there was a rain storm that day and now we're looking at at 1-2k fans in attendance. Absolutely pathetic.

                      MIGUEL BERCHELT MAIN EVENTS
                      Berchelt vs. Vargas ll, May 11, 2019
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                      A rematch every bit as vicious as its predecessor proved far more dominant for the defending 130-pound titlist, who pummeled Francisco Vargas into submission after six rounds Saturday evening in front of a crowd of 4,424 at Tucson Convention Center in Tucson, Ariz.

                      Berchelt vs. Roman, November 23, 2018
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                      In front of a raucous crowd of 5,240 at the Don Haskins Center in El Paso, Texas, fans witnessed one of the best fights of the year. Mexico’s Miguel Berchelt (35-1, 31 KOs) took on veteran of over 70 professional bouts Miguel Roman (60-13, 47 KOs) next to his hometown of Juarez, Mexico. The crowd was firmly in favor of Roman throughout the night in what turned out to be a memorable night of boxing.

                      JAIME MUNGUIA MAIN EVENTS
                      Munguia vs. Smith, July 22, 2018.
                      Quote:
                      Dangerous puncher Jaime Munguia (30-0, 25 KOs) defended his WBO junior middleweight world championship against former world champion Liam "Beefy" Smith (26-2-1, 14 KOs) via 12-round decision in the main event of HBO Boxing After Dark on Saturday, in front of 2,470 fans at The Joint at the Hard Rock

                      GILBERTO RAMIREZ MAIN EVENTS
                      Ramirez vs. Ahmed, Febuary 3, 2018
                      Quote:
                      In front of 3,200 in attendance Ramírez retained his WBO title against Ahmed via a 6th round stoppage win

                      Ramirez vs. Angulo, June 30, 2018
                      Quote:
                      In front of a small crowd of 5,241 in attendance, Ramírez successfully retained his WBO title in defeating Angulo via unanimous decision.

                      JUAN FRANCISCO ESTRADA MAIN EVENTS
                      Estrada vs. Orocuta, September 9, 2018
                      Quote:
                      The violence swelled in Rounds 7 and 8 to the approval of the 4,019 in attendance at The Forum in Inglewood, California.

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