Terence Crawford: "Watched it again...biased commentary, JEFF HORN BEAT MANNY"

[Divine Hammer]

thanks to the ppl that says Horn won the fight
Now we know how many idiot accts are here in NSB
keep it up

a lot of numbskulls on this board for sure hahahahahahahahahahaha. all horn has is his gift decision against pac. he has become irrelevant. good riddance.

[Unified18]

Salido barely landed a clean punch on Loma!

Meanwhile, Horn was flushing Manny in 7 rounds. You're blinded by the so-called "dirty fighting" and are completely ignoring all of the very clean, very unexpected shots Horn was landing especially of pivots.

You seriously need to go back and watch it again. This time, watch a broadcast WITHOUT Teddy Atlas. And pay attention. If you can't see 7 rounds where Horn was flushing Manny, I'm done.

54 out of the 66 boxing personalities/fighters agrees with the result of my scoring while only 7/66 agrees with yours (with 5 scoring it draw), yet I'm the one being unreasonable. How about you try watching the fight without rose tinted glasses next time and without rewarding Horn points (in the form of Ring generalship)for all his foul play, you'll see that Horn had no business winning that fight, he simply wasn't landing enough clean, legal punches. Anyway, clearly we are never going to agree on this matter so I'll just leave it at that.

[Richard G]

54 out of the 66 boxing personalities/fighters agrees with the result of my scoring while only 7/66 agrees with yours (with 5 scoring it draw), yet I'm the one being unreasonable. How about you try watching the fight without rose tinted glasses next time and without rewarding Horn points (in the form of Ring generalship)for all his foul play, you'll see that Horn had no business winning that fight, he simply wasn't landing enough clean, legal punches. Anyway, clearly we are never going to agree on this matter so I'll just leave it at that.

It's all about crowd behaviour and who is the favourite, wanting to be one of the mob by agreeing with everyone else. Horn was an outsider too, he was expected to lose, he couldn't win so therefor he didn't win.

Those who have since come out to say that Horn won have done so individually and after viewing the fight again. Pretend fans like you only function as part of the mob, you have no opinions of your own.

[Combat Talk Radio]

54 out of the 66 boxing personalities/fighters agrees with the result of my scoring while only 7/66 agrees with yours (with 5 scoring it draw), yet I'm the one being unreasonable. How about you try watching the fight without rose tinted glasses next time and without rewarding Horn points (in the form of Ring generalship)for all his foul play, you'll see that Horn had no business winning that fight, he simply wasn't landing enough clean, legal punches. Anyway, clearly we are never going to agree on this matter so I'll just leave it at that.

You know who's opinion matters?

The 6 out 8 judges from AROUND THE WORLD who watched it after the fact without the biased commentary and uniformly agreed that Horn won the fight.

Not keyboard warriors or fighters trying to save face. Like Crawford who took a double take after originally scoring clearly for Horn. Keef is the only one who was honest and straight up said Manny lost that fair and square. The ranking orgs after that win elevated Horn to #1 Welterweight in the World, #5 P4P. They wouldn't have done that if they felt it was a robbery.

So no, I go by that logic, because that's what really matters. Not the court of public opinion. Officials who watched it and scored it for Horn.

"At the end of the day", Manny Pacquiao didn't take the guy serious, didn't show up and it cost him. And he ducked a rematch that would have helped regain that lost honor. Now he'll have to live with that every time he faces someone. Watch, if he faces the Spence/Porter winner, it'll come up again: "you know, I rewatched that one with the sound off and Horn won that"

[BoomBapTrap]

You know who's opinion matters?

The 6 out 8 judges from AROUND THE WORLD who watched it after the fact without the biased commentary and uniformly agreed that Horn won the fight.

Not keyboard warriors or fighters trying to save face. Like Crawford who took a double take after originally scoring clearly for Horn. Keef is the only one who was honest and straight up said Manny lost that fair and square. The ranking orgs after that win elevated Horn to #1 Welterweight in the World, #5 P4P. They wouldn't have done that if they felt it was a robbery.

So no, I go by that logic, because that's what really matters. Not the court of public opinion. Officials who watched it and scored it for Horn.

"At the end of the day", Manny Pacquiao didn't take the guy serious, didn't show up and it cost him. And he ducked a rematch that would have helped regain that lost honor. Now he'll have to live with that every time he faces someone. Watch, if he faces the Spence/Porter winner, it'll come up again: "you know, I rewatched that one with the sound off and Horn won that"

Horn lost bud. It was a fixed fight. I don’t know if you know, but those things do take place in real life, not just the movies.
Google “pacquiao Horn Twitter reactions” and you’ll find out yourself.

It’s okay if you don’t like a boxer, but facts are facts and trying fabricate, lie, deceive, or just completely thrash a boxer simply because you’re not a fan of him, is the lamest and most inappropriate thing you can do. When you do that, the thread becomes useless, because a real debate can’t be had. The thread becomes just a ****-talking infested thread.

PAC beat Horn.
Horn got a gift decision.
It was a fixed robbery executed by Bob Arum in cahoots with Australia officials.
Everybody seems to know this but you.

[Richard G]

Let's go on Twitter to see who wins a fight

[JuniorTorres720]

Lol those four fighters are salty as hell. They know deep down that Pac-Man was robbed but for whatever reason they want to throw shade at it. Why? Maybe Floyd hates the fact that Pacquiao's legacy is better than his. Maybe those other fighters wanna minimize Pac's greatness. But everyone and their momma knows that Pacquiao was robbed that day. Look at the reaction on Horn's face before the winner was announced. Even Atlas called him out on live TV. These fighters just want to throw shade at Pacquiao and not give him his just due.

[JuniorTorres720]

Horn fought dirty but it's ok, cuz "It's a fight." Lol, if that's the case then I guess you can tell referees to sit back and let them fight however they want. Throw a kick while you're at it. Horn fought a completely dirty fight. He used elbows, headbutts, pushed Pacquiao down on several occasions, used his forearms to push them against his throat. Come on now, this is a disgrace. Crawford's looking real bad right now with these ridiculous comments of his.

[Richard G]

Horn fought dirty but it's ok, cuz "It's a fight." Lol, if that's the case then I guess you can tell referees to sit back and let them fight however they want. Throw a kick while you're at it. Horn fought a completely dirty fight. He used elbows, headbutts, pushed Pacquiao down on several occasions, used his forearms to push them against his throat. Come on now, this is a disgrace. Crawford's looking real bad right now with these ridiculous comments of his.

So you didn't miss Horn's drop kick, what about the rugby tackle though. And the karate chops, they were nasty as was that knee to the balls. Man, Horn should have been charged with assault but those corrupt police...... The judge would have been bribed too. Sigh .......

[LoadedWraps]

In 5 rounds. Yes.



As Paulie said: "what's legal is what the ref lets you get away with". Ultimately, the question boils down to one thing: Who's going backward while not throwing vs a guy that's throwing? Manny was going backward in at least eight rounds.


...Kobe? Who do we ask next, Ja Rule?



In one sentence you say Pac landed cleaner. In the second you say it was a slight edge to Thurman. That's illogical - UNLESS your "landed cleaner" doesn't really mean anything.

You know what happened? What happened is, Manny landed cleaner in SIX ROUNDS. Not the whole fight.

Against Horn, Manny landed cleaner in FIVE ROUNDS. Not the whole fight.

That's the problem. People are not looking at these fights round by round so they get skewed off of one or two clear rounds. You guys did it with Wilder/Fury too - one flash knockdown and one clear knockdown when the guy outboxed you for 11 rounds does not win you a fight!

Fury beat the brakes off of Wilder.