So did Mayweather officially duck Margarito now that it's over?

[DiegoFuego]

Floyd is obviously not afraid of Tony.
Is he ducking him??
Those are two very different questions.

Good point. Like maxorido says, Mayweather probably thinks he can win, but it isn't worth the risk. Which is ducking...not necessarily cowardice.

[charlie31]

the whole "8" million schnitck is a phony floyd made 9 million in beating up judah since hbo guaranteed 5 million and pbf was guaranteed 25% of the ppv that equals 9.5 million so the whole 8 million crap is just that crap. arum wants to make out gangbusta and pbf was his lat hope.

please provide a link, if this is true, it could sway my thoughts on this whole thing, im not biased at all....

[charlie31]

the whole "8" million schnitck is a phony floyd made 9 million in beating up judah since hbo guaranteed 5 million and pbf was guaranteed 25% of the ppv that equals 9.5 million so the whole 8 million crap is just that crap. arum wants to make out gangbusta and pbf was his lat hope.

ACTUALLY come to think of it. if he got 5 mil for fighting Judah and 25% of PPV..

well if Arum gave him 8 mil...and HBo gave him 25% of PPV..then he would def make more than 9 mil that he made against Margarito

i think he dont want no part of Marg

[charlie31]

ACTUALLY come to think of it. if he got 5 mil for fighting Judah and 25% of PPV..

well if Arum gave him 8 mil...and HBo gave him 25% of PPV..then he would def make more than 9 mil that he made against Margarito

i think he dont want no part of Marg

i mean Judah...

[Njord777]

Ducking.

I have two, different opinions on this matter. The short- no, I do not believe Floyd Mayweather is ducking Margarito, even though news has just broken that Margarito will be on a fight card with Cotto (not fighting, but as a double header) rather than on Mayweather's November date.

Firstly, I am a Mayweather fan (maybe more of an admirer). Secondly, I am running out of patience, and the desire, to call myself such based on his choice of opposition. Recently he has fought Gatti- a fight everyone who knew boxing knew he would win, Sharmba Mitchell- as a nonsense tune-up to his next opponent- Zab Judah who had just lost his crown to our new friend Baldomir. Where was the challenge? The victory of beating an elite opponent, or at least someone people thought he might lose to?

Still, I think we forget that Mayweather has been in the boxing game for a very long time now, over a decade, and just recently risen to pound for pound greatness in the eyes of the boxing community. As a young man he wants money- first and foremost the kid wants to collect on his career success. Who knows when a herniated disc in the back, or a rough fight, may end your career. He wants to cash in now that he is at the top. Having played the role of the bad-guy for so many years; court battles and out-of-the-ring troubles drowning him, Floyd has just begun to become liked. Traditonaly he was a type you loved to hate- this huge influx of fans is a new event.

So Floyd is all about the money...fine. But eventually he has to prove our faith in him is merited. He has speed. He has skills. But does the guy have heart? Does he have the desire to carve a career- to create a legend- or does he just want some money to expand the South wing of his mansion?

So, I understand why he is choosing not to fight Margarito. He wants a bigger name. He wants more money. He's not afraid of Antonio- Floyd is far too ****y to even entertain the idea a rough fighter like Margarito could beat him- but he is perhaps less about the legacy and more about the payday. Floyd is not scared of Margarito, he is scared of not being able to buy a new Aston Martin. He wants to take an easy fight probably before butting heads with Oscar in his mega fight and then, should he win, end out the year against Mosley. Two huge pay-days. Why bother even chancing a loss or less than stellar showing when he has such massive dollar signs on the horizon.

So, for the record I do not believe he is ducking Margarito, but looking to secure what is best for his career. The best thing for Floyd's career is not to blow his chances fighting De la Hoya and Mosley. I will amend my statement, though, on two conditions. I will think there may be a hint of fear if Floyd : 1.) Announces the pay-day he fights is signifigantly lower than the 8 million he was offered to fight Margarito, and, 2.) The opponent is a complete bum choice. Someone not even holding the illusion of credibility like Baldomir and his belt. If the opponent is someone who leaves us going shaking out heads, Floyd is being a bum.

If I am correct, and Floyd just wants money over legacy, then that needs to be shown in his payday. He could fight a bum and get almost all the pay-per-view revenue and a massive split (say 70/30) to end up making more than the 8 million. Still, he treads a very thin line with me. What I think of him depends greatly on his next three opponents.

I will forgive him if he fights Baldomir with a majority split of the purse, making him more than 8 million, because I can see how it made financial sense for him. In addition, many Gatti fans will pay to see Baldomir again after what he did to their boy, and while waiting for the mega-fights I mentioned next year, winning the linear Welterweight championship gives him more credibility at the weight, even if it was against a bum. At least an arguement could be made for his achievements at 147. If Mayweather makes less than 8 million for a Baldy fight, or if is next two opponents after this are not De la Hoya and another top name....then me and Mayweather have problems. Until then, I realize he is a young guy looking to reap the rewards of fighting his entire life to get to where he is. He wants a retirement fund high enough to buy him a nice little island and the Fanta girls as his nurses.

[charlie31]

that make sense to you guys? i may have worded it wrong.

[charlie31]

I have two, different opinions on this matter. The short- no, I do not believe Floyd Mayweather is ducking Margarito, even though news has just broken that Margarito will be on a fight card with Cotto (not fighting, but as a double header) rather than on Mayweather's November date.

Firstly, I am a Mayweather fan (maybe more of an admirer). Secondly, I am running out of patience, and the desire, to call myself such based on his choice of opposition. Recently he has fought Gatti- a fight everyone who knew boxing knew he would win, Sharmba Mitchell- as a nonsense tune-up to his next opponent- Zab Judah who had just lost his crown to our new friend Baldomir. Where was the challenge? The victory of beating an elite opponent, or at least someone people thought he might lose to?

Still, I think we forget that Mayweather has been in the boxing game for a very long time now, over a decade, and just recently risen to pound for pound greatness in the eyes of the boxing community. As a young man he wants money- first and foremost the kid wants to collect on his career success. Who knows when a herniated disc in the back, or a rough fight, may end your career. He wants to cash in now that he is at the top. Having played the role of the bad-guy for so many years; court battles and out-of-the-ring troubles drowning him, Floyd has just begun to become liked. Traditonaly he was a type you loved to hate- this huge influx of fans is a new event.

So Floyd is all about the money...fine. But eventually he has to prove our faith in him is merited. He has speed. He has skills. But does the guy have heart? Does he have the desire to carve a career- to create a legend- or does he just want some money to expand the South wing of his mansion?

So, I understand why he is choosing not to fight Margarito. He wants a bigger name. He wants more money. He's not afraid of Antonio- Floyd is far too ****y to even entertain the idea a rough fighter like Margarito could beat him- but he is perhaps less about the legacy and more about the payday. Floyd is not scared of Margarito, he is scared of not being able to buy a new Aston Martin. He wants to take an easy fight probably before butting heads with Oscar in his mega fight and then, should he win, end out the year against Mosley. Two huge pay-days. Why bother even chancing a loss or less than stellar showing when he has such massive dollar signs on the horizon.

So, for the record I do not believe he is ducking Margarito, but looking to secure what is best for his career. The best thing for Floyd's career is not to blow his chances fighting De la Hoya and Mosley. I will amend my statement, though, on two conditions. I will think there may be a hint of fear if Floyd : 1.) Announces the pay-day he fights is signifigantly lower than the 8 million he was offered to fight Margarito, and, 2.) The opponent is a complete bum choice. Someone not even holding the illusion of credibility like Baldomir and his belt. If the opponent is someone who leaves us going shaking out heads, Floyd is being a bum.

If I am correct, and Floyd just wants money over legacy, then that needs to be shown in his payday. He could fight a bum and get almost all the pay-per-view revenue and a massive split (say 70/30) to end up making more than the 8 million. Still, he treads a very thin line with me. What I think of him depends greatly on his next three opponents.

I will forgive him if he fights Baldomir with a majority split of the purse, making him more than 8 million, because I can see how it made financial sense for him. In addition, many Gatti fans will pay to see Baldomir again after what he did to their boy, and while waiting for the mega-fights I mentioned next year, winning the linear Welterweight championship gives him more credibility at the weight, even if it was against a bum. At least an arguement could be made for his achievements at 147. If Mayweather makes less than 8 million for a Baldy fight, or if is next two opponents after this are not De la Hoya and another top name....then me and Mayweather have problems. Until then, I realize he is a young guy looking to reap the rewards of fighting his entire life to get to where he is. He wants a retirement fund high enough to buy him a nice little island and the Fanta girls as his nurses.

8 mil is cashing in..he is set for life. he just doesnt want his 0 to go.....

[Smokin']

You guys have probably all heard this but I heard Sugar Shane and Mayweather were in very serious negotiations but Shane wanted 55-45 (him 45) and Mayweather wanted 60-40 but they were still willing to possibly get something done. I heard that Mosley's wife started talking **** to Mayweathers girl about the money issue and they got into a huge fight and Mayweather's girl said something that really pissed off Sugar Shane's and the deal was totally off.

I also heard that Hatton is getting serious with Mayweather right now b/c he can't get at Arturo.

[AREALFIGHTER]

Look honestly this is how I feel about it. Mayweather knows Marg is going to give him hell for twelve rounds. I think he will beat varge by a closely contested 3 round victory. I think mayweather is more conserned with hurting his brittle hands than actually losing to Marg. It will be a hotly contested fight but I think floyd will eak out a 3 round victory.

[Njord777]

Hmm.

8 mil is cashing in..he is set for life. he just doesnt want his 0 to go.....

8 million does not set you for life if you live like Mayweather does. He spends money on extravagent clothes, multiple cars and homes- he lives the hip hop lifestyle. Flashy as can be. I bet he could blow through that money far quicker than you think....for us 8 million might last...for a guy like that...you'd be surprised.