Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: In Rematch, Either Me or Wilder Will Get Knocked Out!

[W1LL]

And Fury doesn't lie. He changes his stance repeatedly in the press because he sees the whole thing as a charade. He goes out of his way to confuse and trigger people from interview to interview, purposely having 180 turns in his opinions. It is a joke to him. You morons who get so worked up about this stuff prove his point perfectly.

[billeau2]

Fury was very elusive in the first fight. But he sure wasn't very effective in countering. Wilder landed 17% of his punches and Fury landed 26% and only 13 more punches the entire 12 round fight. Squeaked out rounds that he "won" by 1 or 2 punches in 7 rounds. Against a guy as inaccurate as Wilder was, he should have been tattooing him with counters. If Wilder hadn't gotten those knockdowns his performance would have been jokingly abysmal with all the missing he did, but I may be in the minority in saying Fury's performance wasn't good either. Make 'em miss and make 'em pay... for the most part Fury forgot the second part of that saying. I hope he does a whole lot more if it gets to the cards in the rematch. Fury is always a lot more pleased with his performance in bigger fights than I think he should be ...e.g. the Klitchko victory which is a candidate for the worst hw title fight in history - total slopfest.

I question those stats. Even if they are punch stat numbers there is no way these stats could be true. Watching the fight tells one these numbers could not be accurate. When saying Fury's performance was not good, or good, or sloppy, or clean...based on what? If you look at the film Fury was very accurate. Wilder straightened his punch out for that second knock down. Again, saying what Fury "should have" countered is silly. This fight was a decent scrap. Fury was coming off a period of low activity and Wilder was fighting a very gifted boxer. Neither guy is an easy opponent.

[SN!PER]

I AGREE with Fury this time.

In the first fight, Fury and Wilder both fought timidly and barely threw any punches. They weren't themselves in there. The action only heated up in the second half of the fight because they were figuring each other out.

In the rematch, someone will get KTFO. Fury will fight with more confidence. When he puts his weight into his shots, he can do damage. He's capable of countering Wilder and blindsiding him with hooks and uppercuts on the inside. It's the punches you don't see coming that hurt the most. Wilder will have 15 lbs. more muscle than the first fight, and will go to the body more. This will wear down the Gypsy King and open him up to huge power shots upstairs.

This fight won't last 9 rounds. It may not even last 6 rounds.

[billeau2]

Regarding strategy

Fury understands that Wilder has not really had anyone go at him and try to Ko him except maybe King Kong. And that fight was a barn burner, Ortiz almost had Wilder. Its the same basic logic that Holyfield used against Tyson. Instead of avoiding the "beast" go into the belly of the beast, attack the beast and make the beast have to worry about being beat up!

Fury is just smart enough to realize what an advantage it is to have people automatically try to avoid an opponent. I don't blame Fury, I would be talking about attacking Wilder as well (whether I chose to, or not). Ortiz had it right the first time, just could not sustain it.

[Letmaku]

Promoting is okay but you will be remembered with your fists. War!

[P4Pdunny]

Don't put so much emphasis on talk. Talk is cheap and Fury does a lot of it. The only thing that matters is what happens in the ring.

I feel you, but its hard to ignore when it's him. Ultimately though you are right

[REDEEMER]

They all lie to the press. Both Wilder and Joshua have contradicted themselves multiple times in the same interview. Who gives a damn? Other than you that is. Maybe you should watch a soap opera instead of boxing because you seem more concerned with what is said between fights than what actually happens in a fight. Typical millennial PC thug behavior.

And what is happening in the fights ?

[REDEEMER]

Fury understands that Wilder has not really had anyone go at him and try to Ko him except maybe King Kong. And that fight was a barn burner, Ortiz almost had Wilder. Its the same basic logic that Holyfield used against Tyson. Instead of avoiding the "beast" go into the belly of the beast, attack the beast and make the beast have to worry about being beat up!

Fury is just smart enough to realize what an advantage it is to have people automatically try to avoid an opponent. I don't blame Fury, I would be talking about attacking Wilder as well (whether I chose to, or not). Ortiz had it right the first time, just could not sustain it.

Breazeale also had it right ,caught Wilder coming in and had him stunned with the first shot landing backing up but then stood there and backed away letting Wilder do his double pump step and let him come forward and it was lights out. The thing is Fury isn't as heavy handed so I see this playing pout like the first fight and Wilder getting stunned late and maybe stopped.

[NYhaven]

Breazeale also had it right ,caught Wilder coming in and had him stunned with the first shot landing backing up but then stood there and backed away letting Wilder do his double pump step and let him come forward and it was lights out. The thing is Fury isn't as heavy handed so I see this playing pout like the first fight and Wilder getting stunned late and maybe stopped.

Lol do you understand what stun is? to be knocked unconscious or semi-unconsciousness, to not be able to react or be In a daze. Wilder wasn’t none of that. He was wild in trying to catch Dominic and got caught with a punch and just backed up a lil he wasn’t “stunned” or bother by it, he just realized he got hit with a punch. There’s another view of that same punch from the other side and Wilder looked regular. Where he DID get stunned at was versus Ortiz. Right before he got hurt, he went for a punch got countered and stayed in the pocket(clearly a lil ‘buzzed’ or stunned” then throws a follow up punch maybe to show “toughness” and that’s when things went downhill. Not surprising because a couple sparring partners said Wilder hits the hardest of all fighters and Ortiz cracked the hardest after him, then Joshua. So if we are to believe Joshua is the heavy hard puncher than wilder taking that punishment from a harder-than-Joshua puncher in MID ROUNDS means his chin is valid. Plus to make sense of this thread, Fury clearly doesn’t have power to hurt Wilder let alone knock him down if he sustained 30secs plus of that punishment in the middle of a fight. Fury only chance of winning is to box and came close to that last time. This one is for all the marbles.

[billeau2]

Breazeale also had it right ,caught Wilder coming in and had him stunned with the first shot landing backing up but then stood there and backed away letting Wilder do his double pump step and let him come forward and it was lights out. The thing is Fury isn't as heavy handed so I see this playing pout like the first fight and Wilder getting stunned late and maybe stopped.

When we look at historically great fighters like Liston, and we see their skill in finishing, when getting a man in trouble, it starts to make sense why this skill is important. Wilder was born with great survival instincts. I like to think I am the same way lol, we all probably do! What it breaks down to is when some people are hurt they back off, others get crazy, focused and aggressive when hurt.

When you hurt Wilder you have to finish the job and cannot wear him down slowly. Again there is a reason for this: Wilder does not have to win rounds, get points. He only has to make sure he hits you enough times to finish the job once. So if you win a whole bunch of rounds, or not...Its all the same for Wilder. For him to win is a numbers game. He has to connect enough times. I can't think of a better example than his Fury fight.