Comments Thread For: Barry Hearn Defends Choice of Saudi Arabia For Ruiz-Joshua II

[ShoulderRoll]

You shouldn't let money cover up crimes and human rights abuses. That is simply wrong.

[4truth]

I remember back in the 80s, Linda Ronstadt going to apartheid South Africa and saying much the same. Other people’s misery is not any concern of mine, I have a right to make money.

[saintpat]

Well if you don't like Saudi Arabia as a location, do it in the UK. First fight was in the USA so it's only fair the rematch is in the UK. Ruiz agreed to that when he agreed to the terms if the contract.

Tell Rivas how fair a fight in the UK is — if AJ fails a test, they’ll hide the results in the space in AJ’s gloves to fill where the padding was removed.

UK blew any chance of that by its corruption and disregard for fighter safety.

[arraamis]

In all honesty .... There are only a few countries that don't commit what can be perceived as human right abuses or abuses of authority on a grand scale.

This includes the police state within the USA ...... The Police aren't using swords in the states, but their body count rivals\exceeds the Saudi's. Look at Mexico .... The body count there is insane.

So, when that is the case, who is\becomes the moral authority?

[saintpat]

In all honesty .... There are only a few countries that don't commit what can be perceived as human right abuses or abuses of authority on a grand scale.

This includes the police state within the USA ...... The Police aren't using swords in the states, but their body count rivals\exceeds the Saudi's. Look at Mexico .... The body count there is insane.

So, when that is the case, who is\becomes the moral authority?

Are there human rights abuses around the globe? Sure. But to act like they are all equal and, well, if a policeman shoots an unarmed man who reaches into his pocket in New York then that’s the same as cutting someone’s head off for having a different religious belief or being a **** victim ... just no.

Were the killing fields in Cambodia where millions were gunned down en mass and put in mass graves for not bowing to an evil regime equal to what you say is going on in America? I don’t see how anyone can make that statement.

The Saudis, in their own consulate, assassinated a journalist. State-sponsored murder to silence a critic carried out by the state as an act of state. They are literally on pace to chop the heads off more than 100 people this year — not for killing people, but for being dissidents and speaking out against the government. They did more than 30 in one day recently. A few were teenagers.

I’d rather not reward that behavior just so Eddie and AJ and Barry can line their pockets with a few quid. No thanks.

[arraamis]

Are there human rights abuses around the globe? Sure. But to act like they are all equal and, well, if a policeman shoots an unarmed man who reaches into his pocket in New York then that’s the same as cutting someone’s head off for having a different religious belief or being a **** victim ... just no.

Were the killing fields in Cambodia where millions were gunned down en mass and put in mass graves for not bowing to an evil regime equal to what you say is going on in America? I don’t see how anyone can make that statement.

The Saudis, in their own consulate, assassinated a journalist. State-sponsored murder to silence a critic carried out by the state as an act of state. They are literally on pace to chop the heads off more than 100 people this year — not for killing people, but for being dissidents and speaking out against the government. They did more than 30 in one day recently. A few were teenagers.

I’d rather not reward that behavior just so Eddie and AJ and Barry can line their pockets with a few quid. No thanks.

I understand that many may want to dissect the many degrees\levels of evil that seem to exist, but it becomes more and more difficult when the rose colored lens is removed.

That's why I ask ... Who or what is the moral compass or standard in today's world.

Example:
The Saudi's kill\behead thirty criminals found to be guilty under their religious belief system. The US kills one hundred Plus in one swipe with a bomb dropped from an airplane because they had intelligence that a few of them were *********.

The Saudi's can justify their actions as being in alignment with their religious belief system. What system in the USA (one example out of many countries) can be used to justify gunning down unarmed citizens wholesale under the guise of a police office supposedly fearing for his life. Or even worst killing many innocent civilians that were in close proximity of alleged *********s.

I acknowledge that evil is evil, and that there is no valid measurement that can make one instance greater in scope than another. You can account for the body count - but the evil deed is the same.

Point being made here ..... Saudi Arabia is no worst than another country that kills in a different manner using a different belief system.

[Oldskoolg]

So in other words, people have been making fun and being mean to Eddie, so he’s off to a safe space while daddy talks to the cameras.

Yeah that’s exactly what happened. Little Eddie tan to his daddy crying

[saintpat]

I understand that many may want to dissect the many degrees\levels of evil that seem to exist, but it becomes more and more difficult when the rose colored lens is removed.

That's why I ask ... Who or what is the moral compass or standard in today's world.

Example:
The Saudi's kill\behead thirty criminals found to be guilty under their religious belief system. The US kills one hundred Plus in one swipe with a bomb dropped from an airplane because they had intelligence that a few of them were *********.

The Saudi's can justify their actions as being in alignment with their religious belief system. What system in the USA (one example out of many countries) can be used to justify gunning down unarmed citizens wholesale under the guise of a police office supposedly fearing for his life. Or even worst killing many innocent civilians that were in close proximity of alleged *********s.

I acknowledge that evil is evil, and that there is no valid measurement that can make one instance greater in scope than another. You can account for the body count - but the evil deed is the same.

Point being made here ..... Saudi Arabia is no worst than another country that kills in a different manner using a different belief system.

Actually you have identified the line: Saudis are killing over beliefs; think like them or they can use the state to execute you.

That’s a lot different than retaliating or punishing unacceptable actions.

The mere fact that they are willing to drastically and dramatically overpay to get a sporting event just to buy PR tells us all we need to know. They only got interested in this fight because they know the world is paying attention to their evil ... Eddie and AJ and Barry willing to take that blood money. Some morals.

[DaNeutral.]

These excuses about Saudi and the fight are sickeningly feminine and some a tad racist. But, if Hearn had booked the fight in Italy or New Zealand we would of heard a whole different set of excuses but just as many all the same.

Thing is, Americans don't travel to Italy or New Zealand or Saudi or the UK so what difference does it make to then anyway? Hell they Americans didn't even travel to the 1st ruiz aj fight and that was in America.

[saintpat]

These excuses about Saudi and the fight are sickeningly feminine and some a tad racist. But, if Hearn had booked the fight in Italy or New Zealand we would of heard a whole different set of excuses but just as many all the same.

Thing is, Americans don't travel to Italy or New Zealand or Saudi or the UK so what difference does it make to then anyway? Hell they Americans didn't even travel to the 1st ruiz aj fight and that was in America.

Well didn’t seem like the Brits traveled to NYC in droves to see the robot so not sure of your point.

Are the Italians and Kiwis beheading people these days?