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  • #41
    Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
    Easiest way for him to prove he isn't scared is to just go ahead and agree to the fight terms... the terms he signed for initially. This isn't rocket science. Throw all the bravado you want into the mix. Doesn't matter. Reality is, he signed the contract that clearly stated what he'd get paid if a rematch happened, and that Hearn sets the rematch location. End of story.
    So he beat Joshua, now has to prove he isn't scared? That's got to be the dumbest logic I have ever heard.

    By the way...the bravado is coming from Joshua who says he was only beaten by a lucky punch sent from the gods.

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    • #42
      The champ will finish AJ has a premier sport and Hearns will be back to what he always was, a big fish in a small pond!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
        No but the Saudi's call it the death penalty. Italy doesnt have that, NewZealand doesnt and the UK doesnt. Does America?

        How many WWE wrestlers, Pro tennis or Golf or Soccer players or F1 drivers have lost their head or hands when they went to Saudi? Did the WBSS finalists lose an arm? Did Amir Khan choke on sand? Did Groves get trampled by a camel?
        What about journalists? Should they be sacrificed by a country that still has the death penalty applied for WITCHCRAFT just for covering the fight?

        Are you defending killing people (at a rate of about 150 per year by state beheading in recent years) for things like witchcraft, blasphemy, being a **** victim and criticizing the government? Or is it OK as long as so far no boxers have had their heads lopped off? And should a fighter go to a country where if he so much as says ‘The government here stinks’ might be killed for it by the state?

        Would it be equally OK to you to compel a fighter to go to South Africa during apartheid days as long as that boxer is allowed to leave freely despite all the others who were enslaved and treated by law as less than human?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
          Where did he use the word afraid or fear?
          I have made a vow to no longer debate with the brits. "Arguing with one fool soon creates two".

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          • #45
            Originally posted by zaheer View Post
            When a fight happens in America, they say it's where the big money is...money talks...etc.

            When the big money is elsewhere everyone has a problem, I guess money doesn't talk.
            Yeah but how does Ruiz get any of that big money? He’s locked in. AJ gets paid for the inconvenience of fighting in Saudi, Ruiz wont. It’s brilliant on AJs part. He will get all the extra money the Sauds will throw the promotion and none will go to Ruiz. The guy who gets knocked out drags the champ to Saudi where he will get all the bonus money. I get it a lot of people will say AJ is so cool that he can make this happen. But as a true boxing fan is it really that cool that we have situations like this?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by saintpat View Post
              What about journalists? Should they be sacrificed by a country that still has the death penalty applied for WITCHCRAFT just for covering the fight?

              Are you defending killing people (at a rate of about 150 per year by state beheading in recent years) for things like witchcraft, blasphemy, being a **** victim and criticizing the government? Or is it OK as long as so far no boxers have had their heads lopped off? And should a fighter go to a country where if he so much as says ‘The government here stinks’ might be killed for it by the state?

              Would it be equally OK to you to compel a fighter to go to South Africa during apartheid days as long as that boxer is allowed to leave freely despite all the others who were enslaved and treated by law as less than human?
              Yes Journo's went out reporting on all these sports and never lost any limbs either. Dont you realize you just sound like your making weak excuses to NOT do something thats been done lots of times already cuz you claim anybody who does it will die. Any idea how ****** you sound?

              My girlfriend and her family lived there, as practicing Christians, for 5 years and none of them were killed or lost a hand. What i feel is you are another Xenophobic American who has never been to Saudi and unlikely been anywhere out of the States but feel you are an expert on all things foreign but dont actually have a clue.

              You brought up their death penalty as a reason for not going but you live in a country with the death penalty. You dont like it cuz theirs is more strict than yours? Yeah its strict but its still the same as yours.

              I dont think black people should go to America, its dangerous. The police have a habit of shooting black people for no reason and the amount of mass shootings in the States means you could be randomly killed on the streets at any point at any time. Where do we stop being limp about this?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Brettcappe View Post
                I have made a vow to no longer debate with the brits. "Arguing with one fool soon creates two".
                Fool is the one putting words in peoples mouth and then throwing insults when challenged on this. Again where did he use the word afraid of fear?

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                • #48
                  Of course Bazza sides on his sons side.
                  It's his son FFS.
                  Nothing really gained by reading that article.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                    Yes Journo's went out reporting on all these sports and never lost any limbs either. Dont you realize you just sound like your making weak excuses to NOT do something thats been done lots of times already cuz you claim anybody who does it will die. Any idea how ****** you sound?

                    My girlfriend and her family lived there, as practicing Christians, for 5 years and none of them were killed or lost a hand. What i feel is you are another Xenophobic American who has never been to Saudi and unlikely been anywhere out of the States but feel you are an expert on all things foreign but dont actually have a clue.

                    You brought up their death penalty as a reason for not going but you live in a country with the death penalty. You dont like it cuz theirs is more strict than yours? Yeah its strict but its still the same as yours.

                    I dont think black people should go to America, its dangerous. The police have a habit of shooting black people for no reason and the amount of mass shootings in the States means you could be randomly killed on the streets at any point at any time. Where do we stop being limp about this?
                    OK, so some journalists don’t get murdered by the state so what if others do? They hacked one to pieces in their own consulate — not after a trial, but an action by the state in their own building carried out by the state. Should other journals feel safe.

                    Their death penalty covers THOUGHT and BELIEF, not just actions. To execute someone for murder after conviction is a different thing (although you can certainly be against it) than executing someone for what they think or believe, which is what is happening in Saudi Arabia. Merely practicing a different belief or criticizing the government can result in the government within that system taking your life.

                    You think this is a good thing? Do you support the Saudis for chopping off heads for WITCHCRAFT or criticizing the government? Or saying something their religion doesn’t agree with?

                    That’s barbaric.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by saintpat View Post
                      OK, so some journalists don’t get murdered by the state so what if others do? They hacked one to pieces in their own consulate — not after a trial, but an action by the state in their own building carried out by the state. Should other journals feel safe.

                      Their death penalty covers THOUGHT and BELIEF, not just actions. To execute someone for murder after conviction is a different thing (although you can certainly be against it) than executing someone for what they think or believe, which is what is happening in Saudi Arabia. Merely practicing a different belief or criticizing the government can result in the government within that system taking your life.

                      You think this is a good thing? Do you support the Saudis for chopping off heads for WITCHCRAFT or criticizing the government? Or saying something their religion doesn’t agree with?

                      That’s barbaric.
                      Hahahaha, I can't even be bothered with you your so god damn Lame. If boxing and other sports hadn't already been happening over there without incident which was reported on without incident and was watched by fans who had travelled without incident I'd take you a little bit seriously but they already have.

                      Where was this anti Saudi Arabia rage when the WBSS finals or the Amir Khan fight?

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