Anthony Joshua exposes Eddie Hearn in "The Untold Truth".

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Corbett was undisputed champion in less fights

Jeffries was undisputed champion in less fights, defended his title more, and defended against all the comp instead of 2/3s

Johansson 22-0 Undisputed champion.

Ali 22-0 undisputed champion.

Frazier 22-0 undisputed champion


That was really easy. Maybe if Josh was undisputed it'd've been a challenge....maybe.

LMAO! You just mentioned 3 boxers from the stone age when boxers were just fighting for lineal titles and a cup of cider, lol. You're a muppet.

Frazier didn't even win a title until his 25th fight, unless you want to count the New York state commission title as a significant title, lol.

Only Muhammad Ali is the legitimate answer. You're an airhead! LMAO.

GET YA HISTORY BOOKS OUT AND NAME 5 HEAVYWEIGHTS IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING WITH BETTER RESUMES AND ACCOLADES THAN ANTHONY JOSHUA AFTER 22 FIGHTS!

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I've not read the thread because I'm trying to filter out the bull**** of late, but can somebody explain to me why Hearn is a scumbag?

Have ANY of his fighters said this about him? Not to my knowledge.

From a fan perspective, he has given huge opportunities to fighters and has made big 50/50 fights. He has worked with other promoters to make stuff happen for the sport. So no complaints as a fan.

So why do you consider him a scumbag?

Personally, I've never been a fan of Hearn and his attention deficit disorder. The guy talks too much and he's reminiscent of Puff Daddy in the 90s and noughties - the character that's always all up in his artists' videos, dancing in shinny suits, whilst trying to steal the limelight from them.

Now back to your question: it isn't always about money. The primary job of the promoter is to build boxers until they can maximise their potentials. And when you sign a boxer to a longterm deal - it should always be about long term goals and not what you can get off them in short term, whilst damaging them in the process. If you're a boxing fan - it should be bigger than what a promoter is paying the boxers. Their welfare and careers are also important. Dangling carrots in-front of them whilst ruining the career and damaging them, is just as bad as not paying them what they deserve.

Strike 1: Let's start with Ohara Davies. Granted Ohara Davies is a loudmouthed idiot but I still think Hearn ruined his career. He made that fight against Josh Taylor too soon and that fight shouldn't have happened in Glasgow if anything. And that was the same way he ruined Chamberlain with the Okolie fight. Both were greedy money grab and unnecessary fights that were made too soon. And both Ohara Davies and Chamberlain are yet to recover from those fights. It's also the reason why Tunde never allowed Yarde to get in the ring with Buatsi.

Strike 2: Kell Brook was on the rise after he defeated Shawn Porter in the US. All he needed was to consolidate on that victory and clean out the division. But what did Hearn do? He decided to throw the guy in the ring with a killer two weight classes above him in a greed moneygrab/ego bout and he ended up ruining Kell brook's career. if not for Hearn's idiocy - Kell Brook would be in the mix in the WW division now and he'd be earning more than he did in the GGG fight.

Strike 3: Josh Kelly turned pro in 2017 and has had just 9 pro fights. But Hearn decided to take him all the way to the US and match against a veteran like Ray Robinson who was just in a title fight against Yordenis Ugas and a style nightmare for the guy. It has been 2 months now and I've not heard anything about Josh Kelly because he was beaten and badly bruised that night. I just hope he isn't damaged because the guy has a lot of potential.

Strike 4: Hearn has been throwing AJ in the deep end since his 17th fight due to his ego and greed. He never gave the guy a breather even when it was obvious that AJ could fight anyone and he'd still sell out Wembley, as long as he put up show. Then the US sojourn became imminent to draw Wilder out (I believe AJ will KO Wilder). Fair enough, the initial choice was a good style match-up and it would've been a good fight. However, when Miller popped dirty, that's an excuse to let AJ get the breather he needed since it's a new territory with so much pressure and it's close to the fight. AJ had also been inactive for 9 months The coaches picked two boxers (after Ortiz fell through) but Hearn forced his way with a boxer who's signed to a rival promotional company coming off a fight and the worst style nightmare for AJ in an inconsequential voluntary fight. There was no incentive to pick Ruiz and the guy didn't even sell any tickets. Heck, they treated the guy like he had leprosy and didn't even introduce him to the press until fight week. And when they did - they told him not to take his top off because of his big belly, lool. Any sane person knows he had an ulterior motive in picking Ruiz and everything he does is based on his greed.

Also, anyone who followed the build up to the fight on fight week would notice a lot of weird things. Who employs psychologists and Navy SEAL members who deal with shock and concussion to work with a boxer on fight week if there's no problem?

Now that AJ lost and he can't live vicariously through him anymore, he has been running around and throwing money everywhere, just to sign as many boxers as possible. The ship is sinking and it's only a matter before he goes bankrupt.

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LMAO! You just mentioned 3 boxers from the stone age when boxers were just fighting for lineal titles and a cup of cider, lol. You're a muppet.

Frazier didn't even win a title until his 25th fight, unless you want to count the New York state commission title as a significant title, lol.

Only Muhammad Ali is the legitimate answer. You're an airhead! LMAO.

GET YA HISTORY BOOKS OUT AND NAME 5 HEAVYWEIGHTS IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING WITH BETTER RESUMES AND ACCOLADES THAN ANTHONY JOSHUA AFTER 22 FIGHTS!

What?

Any in history he calls, then cries when I show him this **** was normal early in history....hmm..

Yes the NYSAC was a highly regarded belt actually. It's called the WBC today. Happened in Frazier's time, hence his owning an NYSAC and a WBC while say Deontay has never seen an NYSAC because there is no NYSAC belt anymore, it's WBC...dumbass.

It isn't the NYSAC mention that was lazy it's the claim to undisputed, however, given my lazy approach you should see just how easy as **** it is to shatter Josh's little 22 mark.

Jeffries straight smashes it.

Hell even Bentt got there in less fights.

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What?

Any in history he calls, then cries when I show him this **** was normal early in history....hmm..

Yes the NYSAC was a highly regarded belt actually. It's called the WBC today. Happened in Frazier's time, hence his owning an NYSAC and a WBC while say Deontay has never seen an NYSAC because there is no NYSAC belt anymore, it's WBC...dumbass.

It isn't the NYSAC mention that was lazy it's the claim to undisputed, however, given my lazy approach you should see just how easy as **** it is to shatter Josh's little 22 mark.

Jeffries straight smashes it.

Hell even Bentt got there in less fights.

Fu..ck out of here. He beat a bum to win that belt and Frazier didn't even unify titles until his 25 fight.

At 22 fights, AJ already unified twice and had 3 major belts. There's no comparison between the two, you muppet. LMAO.

And get those stone age boxers who won cups of cider out of there. Black boxers weren't even allowed to box freely when those idiots won their titles.

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AJ was billed as the best heavyweight in the world, OP claims that his promoter is evil because he didnt protect him from an obese B level fighter.

Ruiz exposed AJ for the limited fighter he is.

[Marchegiano]

Fu..ck out of here. He beat a bum to win that belt and Frazier didn't even unify titles until his 25 fight.

At 22 fights, AJ already unified twice and had 3 major belts. There's no comparison between the two, you muppet. LMAO.

And get those stone age boxers who won cups of cider out of there. Black boxers weren't even allowed to box freely when those idiots won their titles.

I don't know why you're so angry bubba

Frazier was a major champion at 22-0. Also, he won his 23

Want me to replace Frazier? Bentt got to a title before Joshua. Talk about Bentt a bit if you like. Doesn't change the fact that he got to a title before Joshua.

You want to claim a circumstantial accolade then be able to disregard that accolade achieved by others due to circumstances It's silly as ****.

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I don't know why you're so angry bubba

Frazier was a major champion at 22-0. Also, he won his 23

Want me to replace Frazier? Bentt got to a title before Joshua. Talk about Bentt a bit if you like. Doesn't change the fact that he got to a title before Joshua.

You want to claim a circumstantial accolade then be able to disregard that accolade achieved by others due to circumstances It's silly as ****.

Frazier was a NYSAC champion at 22 fights in and he didn't unify until his 25 fight.

AJ was on that level at his 16th fight. At 22 fights in, he had already unified twice with 3 belts.

How's that difficult to understand?

And stop posting stone age boxers. There were no black boxers back then when those guys were fighting for cups of cider, so the level of competition was pretty low.

[Marchegiano]

Frazier was a NYSAC champion at 22 fights in and he didn't unify until his 25 fight.

AJ was on that level at his 16th fight. At 22 fights in, he had already unified twice with 3 belts.

How's that difficult to understand?

And stop posting stone age boxers. There were no black boxers back then when those guys were fighting for cups of cider, so the level of competition was pretty low.

I can't tell if you can't understand the point I'm making because you're honestly dense or just pretending to be but either way it's still funny to me

And what about Bennt though? Doesn't he break your circumstantial claim? He got there before AJ? Does that make him better than Joshua? Of course it doesn't. Just like how you already know Josh getting a title at 16 doesn't mean anything other then there was an easy title to grab, Bentt's title after just 12 fights only meant there was a title up for grabs a guy with just 11 fights could win.

Go on and say some clowny **** now son, I dig it.

[Marchegiano]

Joshua's got an accolade if you don't include Bentt, one of the all time poor champs, and the "stone age" boxers....guys who we all know had plenty of fixed fights.

Birds of a feather sonny. If everyone who is comparable isn't so great maybe put two and two together at some point?

Some hype jobs ass **** this is and nothing more

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I can't tell if you can't understand the point I'm making because you're honestly dense or just pretending to be but either way it's still funny to me

And what about Bennt though? Doesn't he break your circumstantial claim? He got there before AJ? Does that make him better than Joshua? Of course it doesn't. Just like how you already know Josh getting a title at 16 doesn't mean anything other then there was an easy title to grab, Bentt's title after just 12 fights only meant there was a title up for grabs a guy with just 11 fights could win.

Go on and say some clowny **** now son, I dig it.

You're an idiot!

Bentt won a title and got knocked out by Herbie after that. When did Bentt ever unify titles?

Are you mentally impaired? AJ UNIFIED twice and had 3 belts after 22 fights.

Fu..ck out of here, man