Andy Ruiz Jr is going to get screwed over here

[MDPopescu]

... I told you, above, to go way back to Al Haymon's $50 million offer for AJ to fight Wilder on Showtime!!! (which was before any Ortiz offer)...

... (and I don't even have a horse in this race...)

Well maybe finkel shouldn't of refused to show Hearn and joshua the terms and conditions. It's not a real offer with out knowing what your signing for. I can't believe people still bring that nonsense up.

We will give you 50 mill just sign up, what are the terms? WE ARE NOT TELLING YOU UNTIL YOU ACCEPT IT. accept what? WE ARE NOT TELLING YOU.

... Of course I remember everything! ... (And I'm with you with that)... ... But AJ only said: give me $50 million and I'll sign on the spot...

[Bullrider]

PBC fanboys better be careful of over-defending Ruiz. Otherwise, chickens will come home to roost.

Of course, I'm referring to the impending Ruiz vs Wilder clash. Ruiz will be expected to impose his A-side status, $10 mil guarrantee, you name it. You'll be sorry you defended his greed when it came to Joshua. Haha...

[Boksfan]

Can we blame Al Gaymon if Ruiz wants to destroy his own career?

[kafkod]

... (I'm far from being an Al Haymon fan)...

... I said it above: Haymon is firstly protecting his own business (just in order to protect his fighters)...

... Now, tell (for instance): just how Crawford would make more money without fighting Spence on Showtime?... and did you forget that he offered AJ $50 million in order to fight Wilder on Showtime as well?...

... I don't want to take sides here, but Haymon also had his calls...

Crawford hasn't been offered any money to fight Spence on Showtime and Spence has ruled out fighting him on ESPN.

The $50million offer to AJ was bogus, nothing but a PR stunt. If it had been a genuine offer they would have met with Hearn to discuss it when he asked them to, or at the very least, picked up the phone when he called them.

[DaNeutral.]

... Of course I remember everything! ... (And I'm with you with that)... ... But AJ only said: give me $50 million and I'll sign on the spot...

Joshua never should of never said that to be fair. Cuz it has clearly come back to bite him on the bum. Still does apparently. Still not as bad as Hearn saying he will conquer America. That was a real dumb thing to say and really has had the opposite effect on Hearns plans and wishes. He needed to bum lick America before he went over there so they felt like he was doing it for them rather than what he did say which would get any proud Americans hackles up

[Fanofreason]

Hearn made his bed running his mouth and screwing over every US promoter and Network.

Now he has failed and has no one else to blame but hisself.

[DaNeutral.]

Crawford hasn't been offered any money to fight Spence on Showtime and Spence has ruled out fighting him on ESPN.

The $50million offer to AJ was bogus, nothing but a PR stunt. If it had been a genuine offer they would have met with Hearn to discuss it when he asked them to, or at the very least, picked up the phone when he called them.

This is what i keep saying. They keep talking about Crawford crossing the street and it has to be on their network but then they make him no offers and instead just pretend he dont exist and keep it all in house.

They told Deontay to walk away from 120 million cuz it was a lowball and the same set of fights held by PBC on Showtime would make more money than that, but they didnt make a counter offer to the DAZN one they just went away and started looking at in house fights.

They are turning down offers from other networks and promoters citing low money and then not countering, so thats basically just saying NO and walking away which to me is as good as ducking.

And i could go on. Look at the Tank Davis v Farmer scenario, they turned down a bigger offer and came back with a worse one. Atleast they came back with something but it was worth less than half of the DAZN one. Who the hell would accept that?

Its quite simple, the PBC will not allow any big fights to happen unless they are on FOX or Showtime but then they are not willing to pay as much as DAZN or ESPN are. So the end result is NO FIGHTS.

[MDPopescu]

... (I'm far from being an Al Haymon fan)...

... I said it above: Haymon is firstly protecting his own business (just in order to protect his fighters)...

... Now, tell (for instance): just how Crawford would make more money without fighting Spence on Showtime?... and did you forget that he offered AJ $50 million in order to fight Wilder on Showtime as well?...

... I don't want to take sides here, but Haymon also had his calls...

Crawford hasn't been offered any money to fight Spence on Showtime and Spence has ruled out fighting him on ESPN.

The $50million offer to AJ was bogus, nothing but a PR stunt. If it had been a genuine offer they would have met with Hearn to discuss it when he asked them to, or at the very least, picked up the phone when he called them.

... Well, you should know better than me...

[Phenom]

This is hilarious considering BJS had to leave his long term promoter because he couldn't get Smith to agree to a fight and just signed with Matchroom plus all of AJ past opponents post Klitschko had to sign a co promotion with Eddie Hearn

[DaNeutral.]

Hearn made his bed running his mouth and screwing over every US promoter and Network.

Now he has failed and has no one else to blame but hisself.

Cool story. Now get back to Fortnite or catapults or what ever you kids are playing with these days. This is an adult conversation, big boys talk so go away and play.

Or add something to the conversation that comes with some actual content, you just put meaningless words up there. #Clown Dosser