Andy Ruiz Jr is going to get screwed over here

[DaNeutral.]

Not by Hearn or AJ or a courtroom lawyer but by Al Haymon and the PBC. They are guna block this rematch regardless of how much Hearn and AJ may bend to try get Ruiz to accept. If Hearn and AJ give up and start to accept places like NY, Vegas or LA Team Ruiz will come up with a whole new set of demands. Weve seen it all before from the PBC.

What Haymon wants is to get out of the contract somehow due to a loophole or a misswording in the contract. Then he can get Ruiz to walk straight in to the path of Deontay Wilder. If they lose in court then the belts get vacated and Haymon will already be trying to get Wilder as 1st crack at them and hopefully against some mismatch nobodies like the ones that Wilder has faced for the majority of his career.

Its all about power to Haymon and the PBC its not about the Boxers at all and he will royally screw Andy Ruiz over to get what he wants, just like he screwed Luis Ortiz over when AJ tried to fight him. The PBC, in particular Al Haymon are a poison to American Boxing and all its sad little shills that frequent forums like this and Youtube are helping it die as best they can with their utter BS and lies and racism.

[MDPopescu]

Not by Hearn or AJ or a courtroom lawyer but by Al Haymon and the PBC. They are guna block this rematch regardless of how much Hearn and AJ may bend to try get Ruiz to accept. If Hearn and AJ give up and start to accept places like NY, Vegas or LA Team Ruiz will come up with a whole new set of demands. Weve seen it all before from the PBC.

What Haymon wants is to get out of the contract somehow due to a loophole or a misswording in the contract. Then he can get Ruiz to walk straight in to the path of Deontay Wilder. If they lose in court then the belts get vacated and Haymon will already be trying to get Wilder as 1st crack at them and hopefully against some mismatch nobodies like the ones that Wilder has faced for the majority of his career.

Its all about power to Haymon and the PBC its not about the Boxers at all and he will royally screw Andy Ruiz over to get what he wants, just like he screwed Luis Ortiz over when AJ tried to fight him. The PBC, in particular Al Haymon are a poison to American Boxing and all its sad little shills that frequent forums like this and Youtube are helping it die as best they can with their utter BS and lies and racism.

... you call yourself DaNeutral... but you're not...

... Al Haymon is only consistent with his way of protecting and doing his business...

... (in order to protect each of his fighters he's protecting his business first)...

[*Makaveli*]

Not by Hearn or AJ or a courtroom lawyer but by Al Haymon and the PBC. They are guna block this rematch regardless of how much Hearn and AJ may bend to try get Ruiz to accept. If Hearn and AJ give up and start to accept places like NY, Vegas or LA Team Ruiz will come up with a whole new set of demands. Weve seen it all before from the PBC.

What Haymon wants is to get out of the contract somehow due to a loophole or a misswording in the contract. Then he can get Ruiz to walk straight in to the path of Deontay Wilder. If they lose in court then the belts get vacated and Haymon will already be trying to get Wilder as 1st crack at them and hopefully against some mismatch nobodies like the ones that Wilder has faced for the majority of his career.

Its all about power to Haymon and the PBC its not about the Boxers at all and he will royally screw Andy Ruiz over to get what he wants, just like he screwed Luis Ortiz over when AJ tried to fight him. The PBC, in particular Al Haymon are a poison to American Boxing and all its sad little shills that frequent forums like this and Youtube are helping it die as best they can with their utter BS and lies and racism.

Can't stand Al Haymon or Eddie Hearn, boxing would be better if they both dissappeared up their own erseholes. But Al Haymon at least has some exciting boxers on his roster. Eddie has 2 convicted drug cheats and his golden goose has just been exposed as a glass chinned paper champion.

[DaNeutral.]

... you call yourself DaNeutral... but you're not...

... Al Haymon is only consistent with his way of protecting and doing his business...

... (in order to protect each of his fighters he's protecting his business first)...

So he is screwing over his fighters to protect his business first? Thats no different to what i said. But when he is done making his business safe he then will continue to screw his fighters so his business makes him the most money.

I get riled by Haymon and the PBC cuz i see what they are doing and what they doing is killing American Boxing by refusing to release his fighters to fight on other networks for more money to make the fights we all want to see. He is blocking that cuz he wants them on Fox or Showtime.

Or even worse what is happening in the Welterweight division where the only way Americas best fighter can fight for the chance to be unified and undisputed is to leave his contract with his promoter and sign up with a promoter he doesnt want to sign up with. THAT **** IS JUST CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. Nobody else in Boxing is having to to that.

Its really obvious what is going on at the PBC, its real dirty business and its spoiling and suffocating the sport in America. And some idiots defend it cuz they are dumb and think the PBC is doing it for black people. LOL. He screws black people, Haymon is a business man and he is making ANTI BOXING DECISIONS in order to benefit himself. Not Boxers of any colour or nationality.

[DaNeutral.]

Can't stand Al Haymon or Eddie Hearn, boxing would be better if they both dissappeared up their own erseholes. But Al Haymon at least has some exciting boxers on his roster. Eddie has 2 convicted drug cheats and his golden goose has just been exposed as a glass chinned paper champion.

He does have some great and exciting Boxers in his stable but he wont allow them to fight in the fights all the fans crave. We craved AJ v Wider, Spence v Crawford, Tank v Loma, Jermall Charlo against anybody worth a damn.

He wont allow those fights cuz the opposition are willing to put more money down than he is to make those fights, and where as usually they either bid for the fight or one promoter bows to the bigger money from the other side Al Haymon wont even enter in to negotiations cuz he knows he wont put in as much money as the other side but refuses to send his fighters to rival networks. So he just stops these great fights happening to suit himself and his company.

If somebody wants to tell me he is only doing this cuz the PBC are half a billion in debt and he is desperately trying to save it then thats fair enough, but it still means he is doing it. But they would rather lie and say he is just operating as all normal promoters do which is clearly not the case.

The Luis Ortiz affair is the best example. Haymon did NOT want Ortiz to face Joshua, he had plans for Ortiz to rematch Wilder and didnt want Joshua ruining those plans by beating him 1st or better than Wilder did the 1st time. Thats what that was all about as it wouldnt be good for PBC business so it never happened. But the Boxer Luis Ortiz was offered career high money to fight for 4 belts, beating Joshua would of been the best day of Luis Ortiz Pro career in many ways and Haymon blocked that for business reasons.

Obviously none of this can be proven cuz Haymon is a slick criminal but im not an investigator and i wont be going to court to testify so i dont need to prove fekk all. But thats whats happening out there right now at the PBC and it stinks and you dont need proof to see it happening infront of our very eyes.

[MDPopescu]

... you call yourself DaNeutral... but you're not...

... Al Haymon is only consistent with his way of protecting and doing his business...

... (in order to protect each of his fighters he's protecting his business first)...

So he is screwing over his fighters to protect his business first? Thats no different to what i said. But when he is done making his business safe he then will continue to screw his fighters so his business makes him the most money.

I get riled by Haymon and the PBC cuz i see what they are doing and what they doing is killing American Boxing by refusing to release his fighters to fight on other networks for more money to make the fights we all want to see. He is blocking that cuz he wants them on Fox or Showtime.

Or even worse what is happening in the Welterweight division where the only way Americas best fighter can fight for the chance to be unified and undisputed is to leave his contract with his promoter and sign up with a promoter he doesnt want to sign up with. THAT **** IS JUST CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. Nobody else in Boxing is having to to that.

Its really obvious what is going on at the PBC, its real dirty business and its spoiling and suffocating the sport in America. And some idiots defend it cuz they are dumb and think the PBC is doing it for black people. LOL. He screws black people, Haymon is a business man and he is making ANTI BOXING DECISIONS in order to benefit himself. Not Boxers of any colour or nationality.

... I told you're not neutral...

... Did Arum let Crawford fight on Fox/Showtime?... Did Hearn let AJ fight Wilder on Showtime?...

[DaNeutral.]

... I told you're not neutral...

... Did Arum let Crawford fight on Fox/Showtime?... Did Hearn let AJ fight Wilder on Showtime?...

Joshua used to fight on Showtime. Cant speak for Crawford. But what i know is if the PBC put in a better offer than what DAZN or ESPN were offering then we would have to see what happens. But the PBC are not doing that. They are not making better offers but then they are not releasing their fighters to the better offers.

Look at the huge offer DAZN made Wilder. 20million to face Breazeale then 40 mill x2 to face AJ. Plus another 20 mill incase Wilder had to face Breazeale a 2nd time. Haymon said NO NO NO, this is a lowball, this fight makes more money on Showtime PPV. Which is fine if true, so they walked away, we waited for a bigger counter offer to make this same fight, the fight WE ALL WANTED, on their network and it never came, so it makes more money but we wont even put an offer in? What did they do instead? Lined up Breazeale which paid both fighters alot less than DAZN offered and then a rematch with Ortiz for much less money than DAZN offered Ortiz to face Joshua for more belts.

If that isnt screwing over the Boxers AND the fans i dont know what is. They should of kept that Wilder AJ fight alive by backing up their words and putting in a better offer but they didnt, they just walked away cuz they are not prepared to match or better DAZN offer. They just talked like it wasnt good enough and walked off.

[MDPopescu]

Joshua used to fight on Showtime. Cant speak for Crawford. But what i know is if the PBC put in a better offer than what DAZN or ESPN were offering then we would have to see what happens. But the PBC are not doing that. They are not making better offers but then they are not releasing their fighters to the better offers.

Look at the huge offer DAZN made Wilder. 20million to face Breazeale then 40 mill x2 to face AJ. Plus another 20 mill incase Wilder had to face Breazeale a 2nd time. Haymon said NO NO NO, this is a lowball, this fight makes more money on Showtime PPV. Which is fine if true, so they walked away, we waited for a bigger counter offer to make this same fight, the fight WE ALL WANTED, on their network and it never came, so it makes more money but we wont even put an offer in? What did they do instead? Lined up Breazeale which paid both fighters alot less than DAZN offered and then a rematch with Ortiz for much less money than DAZN offered Ortiz to face Joshua for more belts.

If that isnt screwing over the Boxers AND the fans i dont know what is. They should of kept that Wilder AJ fight alive by backing up their words and putting in a better offer but they didnt, they just walked away cuz they are not prepared to match or better DAZN offer. They just talked like it wasnt good enough and walked off.

... Of course Joshua used to fight on Showtime -- back then, when Hearn and Haymon did business together... but not since Hearn joined DAZN in that broadcasting war...

[DaNeutral.]

... Of course Joshua used to fight on Showtime -- back then, when Hearn and Haymon did business together... but not since Hearn joined DAZN in that broadcasting war...

So? If haymon wants to offer Joshua more money to fight on showtime or fox agaisnt wilder than make some offers that pay both fighters more than DAZN is willing to offer, that's How this sport has worked for long enough. But they won't do that they won't compete so they just walk away.

Why not go to the biggest payer and get the fight all the fans and both fighters claim to want? Or why not make a bigger counter offer and keep it PBC? One or the other please cuz just ignoring it all and walking away doesn't help the sport or its fighters at all.

[Jsmooth9876]

Not by Hearn or AJ or a courtroom lawyer but by Al Haymon and the PBC. They are guna block this rematch regardless of how much Hearn and AJ may bend to try get Ruiz to accept. If Hearn and AJ give up and start to accept places like NY, Vegas or LA Team Ruiz will come up with a whole new set of demands. Weve seen it all before from the PBC.

What Haymon wants is to get out of the contract somehow due to a loophole or a misswording in the contract. Then he can get Ruiz to walk straight in to the path of Deontay Wilder. If they lose in court then the belts get vacated and Haymon will already be trying to get Wilder as 1st crack at them and hopefully against some mismatch nobodies like the ones that Wilder has faced for the majority of his career.

Its all about power to Haymon and the PBC its not about the Boxers at all and he will royally screw Andy Ruiz over to get what he wants, just like he screwed Luis Ortiz over when AJ tried to fight him. The PBC, in particular Al Haymon are a poison to American Boxing and all its sad little shills that frequent forums like this and Youtube are helping it die as best they can with their utter BS and lies and racism.

AL works for Ruiz, not the other way around. If Ruiz wants the fight, he will take it.