Explain what happens If Ruiz vacates or gets stripped for the IBF belt?

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  • lizard_man
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    #31
    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
    This is false. Ruiz vs. Joshua is a voluntary defense. If Ruiz vacates, the top two contenders will be ordered to fight for the title. Joshua isn't entitled to a shot.
    Explain devrenchenko being permanently entitled to ibf title shots then?

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    • REDEEMER
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      #32
      Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
      I think you're a little confused about how things work.

      If the challenger is mandatory and the champion vacates, the IBF would likely allow the mandatory to face the highest available contender for the vacant title to save the show.

      If the challenger is mandatory and pulls out, the IBF would likely allow the champion to face the highest available contender to save the show and would count it as a mandatory defense.

      If the challenge is voluntary and the champion vacates, and there are multiple available challengers rated higher than that voluntary, that voluntary has absolutely no rights and can't fight for the title.
      The IBF saving the show wouldn't take AJ.out of the fight , what ? Ha

      It's in their own rules to vote on a tournament style if need be , it's how they made the Klitschko vs AJ one so that's a loop hole without actual tournament that was also a fight that was a unified title fight with Cavan belts and Wlad coming of a loss does this sound familiar ?

      The WBA has the same rules as IBF so how did unranked Wlad get that title out on the line if he's not ranked at that time? Klitschko had a rematch clause he put forward and was supposed to take place in Vegas before changing his mind , he wasn't a 1or 2 guy but the rematch clause was still.A factor and it's no different for AJ.

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      • GreyFox
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        #33
        If Ruiz is stripped of the IBF then the mandatory Pulev and the next highest contender fight for the vacant title.

        Pretty cut and dry.

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          #34
          Originally posted by GreyFox
          If Ruiz is stripped of the IBF then the mandatory Pulev and the next highest contender fight for the vacant title.

          Pretty cut and dry.
          They can elevate AJ In a number 2 spot , it's not cut and dry with a scheduled fight for multi titles . They have cause to let AJ fight for their title if a champion is stripped with a contract clause and make it an intern title fight , it's in their rules .Klitschko was ranked five going into the rematch with his clause with AJ it didn't effect that fight it shouldn't here .

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          • MEXICAN STYLE
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            #35
            We get farther from having an undisputed champion

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            • DARTH SILKWORMS
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              #36
              Originally posted by lizard_man
              Explain devrenchenko being permanently entitled to ibf title shots then?
              If you keep winning eliminators, you'll keep getting title shots. Pretty simple.

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              • DARTH SILKWORMS
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                #37
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                It's in their own rules to vote on a tournament style if need be , it's how they made the Klitschko vs AJ one so that's a loop hole without actual tournament that was also a fight that was a unified title fight with Cavan belts and Wlad coming of a loss does this sound familiar ?
                Joshua beat Charles Martin to win the IBF title. Joshua made a voluntary defense against Klitschko.

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                • GreyFox
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  They can elevate AJ In a number 2 spot , it's not cut and dry with a scheduled fight for multi titles . They have cause to let AJ fight for their title if a champion is stripped with a contract clause and make it an intern title fight , it's in their rules .Klitschko was ranked five going into the rematch with his clause with AJ it didn't effect that fight it shouldn't here .

                  This fight only counts as a voluntary. IBF doesn't care about contracts for rematch clauses. If he is stripped, it will be Pulev v Kownacki if he accepts.

                  The Klitschko fight was unification not mandatory fight.

                  This rematch only counts as a voluntary if it doesn't go through then IBF will mandate their champion fight their mandatory or get stripped.

                  We've seen this time and time again from the IBF.
                  Last edited by GreyFox; 08-18-2019, 11:50 PM.

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                  • DARTH SILKWORMS
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    They can elevate AJ In a number 2 spot , it's not cut and dry with a scheduled fight for multi titles
                    You're just talking gibberish at this point.

                    Joshua is coming off a loss. He can't climb the ratings unless the people in front of him lose or he fights an official eliminator for the #2 spot, which he's not willing to do.

                    If Ruiz vacates the IBF or is stripped, it absolutely positively will not be Joshua fighting for the vacant title.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
                      You're just talking gibberish at this point.

                      Joshua is coming off a loss. He can't climb the ratings unless the people in front of him lose or he fights an official eliminator for the #2 spot, which he's not willing to do.

                      If Ruiz vacates the IBF or is stripped, it absolutely positively will not be Joshua fighting for the vacant title.
                      The IBF can approve putting AJ at number 2 he is the former unified champion and that slot is vacant. The belts being stripped would result in the IBF ruling for unified title fight which rules over mando ,this is what will happen.

                      You guys just seem to want to ignore that Klitschko was ranked number 5 after the loss but was still going ahead with the rematch due to a rematch clause at that time ,you cant pick and choose to suit a debate,its clear the IBF can regulate a title fight between AJ and Pulev.

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