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Originally posted by MinuteMaid5
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Even if you think he won, was it a domination? Humiliation? Nope.Originally posted by MinuteMaid5Comment
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That's not even remotely true tf are you talking about? Do you live in a parallel universe or something?Originally posted by MinuteMaid5Comment
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Plenty actually
8 billion people? That's pathetically pedantic of you. Everyone in Boxing at the time knew it was a robbery.
Nah I don't consider any of those fights you listed robberies.
Robberies are exclusive to CLEAR robberies such as Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, Toney-Tiberi, Lewis-Holyfield 1, Casamayor-Santa Cruz etc.
CLEAR robberies which also includes Johnson-Pastrano.
dude, you're magical!
Is that the link you meant to post? One from 10 years ago where it's one other person agreeing with you in a thread you had to bump?
I wouldn't be surprised if most people complain about that fight. I wouldn't be surprised if most people "feel" Johnson won. Especially in that era, that might have been the general ethos. But watch it yourself, and score round by round. It'll be cathartic.
The fact that the Maidana and Castillo fights don't bother you, but the Pastrano fight does shows that you have an overwhelming bias that disqualifies your opinion from serious consideration.
How about Basilio-Robinson and Harada-Jofre, how did you score those fights? In that era, pressuring was good enough to win rounds that today would go to the more cultivated/refined/efficient/sound fighter. Being "gutsy" sometimes was enough.Comment
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Correction: he slayed Joe Frazier's ZOMBIE in Manila. Years after Joe should have been retired.
Arguably the only fight that mattered (the only one where they were both in their prime) was the first. Joe beat him.
I guess you cannot read or properly infer. No where did I suggest as much. In fact, Frazier was something of a one-fisted Armstrong, (with a greater penchant for getting caught clean on the chin). He was a tremendous pressure fighter. But he was also predictable, and as I said, easy to hit.
Ali was on the backfoot. He didn't look like Willie Pep in there, or Billy Conn, or Hopkins, or even Canelo.
Several years later, while not even old enough to collect Social Security, he was wearing diapers, needed someone else to dress him, and his greatest daily accomplishment was being able to open a car door all by himself.
Watch the fight. Ali was no Fury. Hell, he got out-boxed by Ken Norton.
I fully appreciate the consequences of extra weight contending with gravity.
I can also point to Vitali Klitcko and Tyson Fury, who are EVEN BIGGER THAN Ali, to show that being big isn't an excuse to turn your chin into a punching bag. Big men can Box - if they have the talent, smarts, and dedication.
Williams had been SHOT. He was no longer the fearsome opponent he had been several years before. He was the DEFINITION of lumbering giant. And even if he was injured, would you expect an AMATEUR to fight like that today?
Even the guy who fought Liston was a big bag of nerves. He couldn't settle down, and blew his wad trying to impose his size. Very inefficient, and crude. A scary guy for Heavyweights of the day. But that was his blessing and his curse: he got by on being big, until being big wasn't enough.Comment
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Erm, yeah you go keep telling yourself that's true bud. Plonker.Originally posted by MinuteMaid5
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Nice to see someone posting from the Old Country! Though, I'd say these days it's probably a lot newer and shinier than things here in the States.
Just a tip, if you haven't already realized, people do come here just to say ridiculous things. Sometimes I think it's actually code talk for people in the "Down Low" Culture.
Whatever it is, just be prepared: the most asinine thing that can be said will be said. And from there it becomes a pissing match to see who can "out-******" everyone else.
I wish I were making this up. But I am not.Comment
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I did swerved time with dr Jeffery Macdonald..
https://*************/watch?v=55pXxxRt70k
I took a tricep bar to a putos dome..I spent a bit off time without zoo zooms and wwwham whams...
My most fovorite expreion. .”mo ****er I’ll kill you where you stand”Comment
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My link shows you how I scored the fight dummy. Which you asked for, didn't you?
dude, you're magical!
Is that the link you meant to post? One from 10 years ago where it's one other person agreeing with you in a thread you had to bump?
I wouldn't be surprised if most people complain about that fight. I wouldn't be surprised if most people "feel" Johnson won. Especially in that era, that might have been the general ethos. But watch it yourself, and score round by round. It'll be cathartic.
The fact that the Maidana and Castillo fights don't bother you, but the Pastrano fight does shows that you have an overwhelming bias that disqualifies your opinion from serious consideration.
How about Basilio-Robinson and Harada-Jofre, how did you score those fights? In that era, pressuring was good enough to win rounds that today would go to the more cultivated/refined/efficient/sound fighter. Being "gutsy" sometimes was enough.
What are you implying? That Castillo and Maidana vs Mayweather were robberies? Because they weren't.
Johnson-Pastrano was a clear robbery. Johnson won the fight CLEARLY. If you don't know that then you have no idea what you are watching.
And you actually used it as an example of where a fighter "dominated" the other
Hilarious.
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... is he saying that "rope-a-dope" wasn't slick?... then what was it???...
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