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  • icha
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    #91
    Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
    You're the guy who is repeating what he says? Just because some guy said something it must he true right?

    Is it not true that Canelo and GGG both have their own contracts rheiigh DAZN?

    So how can Canelo refuse GGG a pay day when GGG is going to get paid no matter what? Fight a tomato can and make 15 million but instead if just doing that he wants Canelo for 15 million?

    How is GGG begging for a payday when hes going to get paid non matter what?

    Asking for a friend
    fighting canelo for ggg makes a big financial difference, is stated in his contract, not somuch for canelo...
    ggg's contract is up to 100mil for 6 fights, 15 mil a fight for 6 fights which takes it to 90 mil, 10 extra mil if he fghts canelo...
    canelo is already making 35 mil a fight and his contract does not include a ggg fight...

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      #92
      Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
      According to reports though the fight didnt get stuck over money, it got stuck over venue.

      Canelo wanted Vegas and GGG did not. So it was never about the money.

      GGG is already set for like and made an easy 15 against Rolls. He could fight anyone not named Canelo but wanted Canelo. DAZN also wanted that fight which is why they signed GGG.

      And Canelo being salty that GGG roasted his ass is no one fault but his own. Seriously, it's like getting caught with you **** in another woman and telling your girl that it's her fault because she didnt put out enough. Canelo needs to take responsibility for that positive but instead is mad that people are mad at him for being busted. Faulty logic there
      Of course it’s his own fault but he’s still salty about it. Plus there’s a chance Canelo is going to sue Golden Boy. He’s already requested a look at Golden Boys books. Ryan Garcia is already suing Golden Boy and apparently him and Canelo are close friends. And Canelo might have some of the same concerns.

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        #93
        Originally posted by icha
        fighting canelo for ggg makes a big financial difference, is stated in his contract, not somuch for canelo...
        ggg's contract is up to 100mil for 6 fights, 15 mil a fight for 6 fights which takes it to 90 mil, 10 extra mil if he fghts canelo...
        canelo is already making 35 mil a fight and his contract does not include a ggg fight...
        An extra 10 million to fight the best in the division right?

        Yet his haters and detractors claim GGG just fight cans. GGG could easily fight cans and still make up the difference. I doubt GGG makes it to the 6th fight as he would be almost 40 at this rate.

        Canelo was willing to take 5 million less to fight anyone but GGG in a fight that makes sense for everyone involved unless your name is Canelo or you mouth is on his nuts.

        Canelo didnt even initially care about the money. What stalled negotiations was the location. If he cant fight GGG in vegas then he wont fight GGG at all. Gee. I wonder why?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
          Of course it’s his own fault but he’s still salty about it. Plus there’s a chance Canelo is going to sue Golden Boy. He’s already requested a look at Golden Boys books. Ryan Garcia is already suing Golden Boy and apparently him and Canelo are close friends. And Canelo might have some of the same concerns.
          Yep. Canelo is gonna fight GGG in 2 years once this has all cleared up and GGG is now almost 40.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
            An extra 10 million to fight the best in the division right?

            Yet his haters and detractors claim GGG just fight cans. GGG could easily fight cans and still make up the difference. I doubt GGG makes it to the 6th fight as he would be almost 40 at this rate.

            Canelo was willing to take 5 million less to fight anyone but GGG in a fight that makes sense for everyone involved unless your name is Canelo or you mouth is on his nuts.

            Canelo didnt even initially care about the money. What stalled negotiations was the location. If he cant fight GGG in vegas then he wont fight GGG at all. Gee. I wonder why?
            canelo wasnt even aware of negotiations LMAO, thats one of the reasons he got mad at GBP and DAZN, they all tried to make this without even asking him...
            And by the way, the only reason ggg can fight cans for 15mil is canelo, he received that huge offer from Dazn for that one reson, ggg on his own wouldnt be able to generate that much interest or money...

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              #96
              Originally posted by icha
              fighting canelo for ggg makes a big financial difference, is stated in his contract, not somuch for canelo...
              ggg's contract is up to 100mil for 6 fights, 15 mil a fight for 6 fights which takes it to 90 mil, 10 extra mil if he fghts canelo...
              canelo is already making 35 mil a fight and his contract does not include a ggg fight...





              triple-bum, looking for another handout

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                #97
                Originally posted by QballLobo
                Speaking of revisionist history. All I heard for years is Canelo wouldn’t last 2 rounds with GGG. That he would walk Canelo down and easily KO him. That GGG wasn’t old because he took care of himself so well and would be like Bhop fighting into his 40’s.
                Suddenly Canelo waited until he was old and GGG won because of communication stats.
                You realize Canelo fought Golovkin at 35 a age when every boxer is on the slide which is Canelos M.O. when he fights HOFers , Canelo has one of the best chins in the sport , No one was saying 2 rounds , I’ll admit I thought Golovkin would win and hurt Canelo but with a chin like Canelo or Golovkin you can’t reasonably expect they’ll get Kod. Both seem like the type you’d need a bat with nails in it , maybe a gun to knock either one down.

                With his Constant Pressure No one ever said Golovkin would be fighting at 40+/ Stop making sh.it up / With his style it’s actually suprising he’s lasted this long. How many Constant Pressure Hard Hitting Fighters are near the top at 35+ / That Type Of style doesn’t age well , I can’t even think of the last fighter who had that style who was near the top of their division at 35+ years of age.

                Talk about Revisionist History

                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                answer these questions...without any BS or sidestepping....just directly answer

                in 2015 ward approached golovkins team about a fight for 2016 who did golovkin fight in 2016 after he said no?

                and at that time in 2015(last quarter of the year) how long was it before golovkin got the actual canelo fight?

                please directly answer
                You realize Canelo dropped the Belt in Early 2016 instead of fighting Golovkin like the WBC ordered.

                How was he supposed to know Canelo would vacate and wait for him to age instead of fighting Golovkin when first ordered.

                Is that Direct enough for you
                With no side stepping. Insisting Ward was ever a option and acting like Golovkin was avoiding him is just Ignorant to the facts and timing of everything

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  You realize Canelo fought Golovkin at 35 a age when every boxer is on the slide which is Canelos M.O. when he fights HOFers , Canelo has one of the best chins in the sport , No one was saying 2 rounds , I’ll admit I thought Golovkin would win and hurt Canelo but with a chin like Canelo or Golovkin you can’t reasonably expect they’ll get Kod. Both seem like the type you’d need a bat with nails in it , maybe a gun to knock either one down.

                  With his Constant Pressure No one ever said Golovkin would be fighting at 40+/ Stop making sh.it up / With his style it’s actually suprising he’s lasted this long. How many Constant Pressure Hard Hitting Fighters are near the top at 35+ / That Type Of style doesn’t age well , I can’t even think of the last fighter who had that style who was near the top of their division at 35+ years of age.

                  Talk about Revisionist History



                  You realize Canelo dropped the Belt in Early 2016 instead of fighting Golovkin like the WBC ordered.

                  How was he supposed to know Canelo would vacate and wait for him to age instead of fighting Golovkin when first ordered.

                  Is that Direct enough for you
                  With no side stepping. Insisting Ward was ever a option and acting like Golovkin was avoiding him is just Ignorant to the facts and timing of everything
                  I've mentioned numerous times, not even just boxers, but how many athletes in general perform at a high-level at 35+ years old? The overwhelming majority are either retired, or are performing at a much lower level than in their earlier days. Sure, there are cases here and there but that is such a small minority in the sports world, never mind contact sports, boxing specifically. These guys act like Golovkin should still be prime at that age, for some reason. "He's never been in any wars," is usually what they'll say or of course fighting cans or bums. They don't take into account the 20+ years of running, exercising, sparring, strength and conditioning, thousands upon thousands of punches thrown, all the amateur and professional fights etc. It was no surprise that we started to see a noticeable decline in 2016 when, shocker, he was 34. Canelo/GBP knew what they were doing by waiting him out. Golovkin at 33 years old and younger was a much different fighter than the one we've seen 34+. And looking back now, I think Sanchez did more harm than good.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    You realize Canelo fought Golovkin at 35 a age when every boxer is on the slide which is Canelos M.O. when he fights HOFers , Canelo has one of the best chins in the sport , No one was saying 2 rounds , I’ll admit I thought Golovkin would win and hurt Canelo but with a chin like Canelo or Golovkin you can’t reasonably expect they’ll get Kod. Both seem like the type you’d need a bat with nails in it , maybe a gun to knock either one down.

                    With his Constant Pressure No one ever said Golovkin would be fighting at 40+/ Stop making sh.it up / With his style it’s actually suprising he’s lasted this long. How many Constant Pressure Hard Hitting Fighters are near the top at 35+ / That Type Of style doesn’t age well , I can’t even think of the last fighter who had that style who was near the top of their division at 35+ years of age.

                    Talk about Revisionist History



                    You realize Canelo dropped the Belt in Early 2016 instead of fighting Golovkin like the WBC ordered.

                    How was he supposed to know Canelo would vacate and wait for him to age instead of fighting Golovkin when first ordered.

                    Is that Direct enough for you
                    With no side stepping. Insisting Ward was ever a option and acting like Golovkin was avoiding him is just Ignorant to the facts and timing of everything
                    Check the history here on these boards. A lot of GGG fans were saying GGG got off to a late start, takes care of himself, and can wait to fight Canelo and still win.
                    Literally the moment Canelo brought GGG out to announce the fight after he beat Chavez Jr. it flipped. Then went even further after the first fight and GGG didn’t walk through canelo and KO him. Go through the history on this board, the receipts are there.

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                    • R-Hand Southpaw
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by icha
                      canelo wasnt even aware of negotiations LMAO, thats one of the reasons he got mad at GBP and DAZN, they all tried to make this without even asking him...
                      And by the way, the only reason ggg can fight cans for 15mil is canelo, he received that huge offer from Dazn for that one reson, ggg on his own wouldnt be able to generate that much interest or money...
                      I think the whole, I didnt know, is complete smoke. Just like how he didnt know he would get popped for PEDs. Complete smoke.

                      Let me ask, how can you not know that a possible trilogy would be made with GGG if he signed with DAZN?

                      The answer you seek is answered by the next question. Who is the biggest profile boxer that Canelo could fight? Answer this question please

                      DAZN signed Canelo to bring in subscriptions but please. Canelo can be called the face of boxing all he wants but nobody knows who he is. I'm a boxing fan and when I started seeing those pathetic DAZN commercials where Canelo couldnt even speak a lick of english I didnt even know who he was until the got close and I was like oh, that's Canelo.

                      They could have replaced him with any rag tag boxer and I as a fan wouldnt have known the difference.

                      Canelo vs #3MW Danny Jacob's only did 1.2 million views WORLD WIDE which I dont even know if you can call that a success considering more people tune into ESPN to watch someone like Lomachenko who is averaging 1.5-2 million views.

                      DAZN doesn’t divulge its subscription numbers, but the emerging streaming service deemed the Canelo Alvarez-Daniel Jacobs fight a success Wednesday as best it c


                      GGG brings in the money for Canelo too but Canelo doesnt want to admit that and neither do his fans.

                      name a fight that would be bigger in popularity and financial success than Canelo vs GGG3

                      I'll wait on that answer

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