Buddy McGirt, Worse Trainer of the Year?

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  • Red_Menace
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    #41
    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
    I don't think McGirt, Roach or Steward could have done anything for Gatti to beat PBF. Mayweather is unbeatable. Up against Hopkins? Tarver was either deaf or didn't have the abilities that night to listen to McGirt to be able to deat Hopkins that night.
    No, the only way Gatti could have beat Mayweather was a lucky punch. Mayweather would have had to get lazy in the ring, or take some form of uneccessary risk to let Gatti land a magic KO for Gatti to win that fight.

    I still find it strange that his fights have a lot of difficulty adapting during a fight. It seems to be a common problem this year, so I'm not sure if it's lack of preperation, or if it's just the type of fighters he chooses to train. He seems to like to find the "diamonds in the rough" so to speak..

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    • ELPacman
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      #42
      Well you know what it was also. I think when McGirt got Gatti to win against Ward using abit more "boxing" techniques, he was immediately sold that Gatti could outbox anyone rather than ever brawl again. WRONG. Beating Ward by boxing him...that doesn't count for much. From then on, he was on this only box type of role and looked bad to terrible at while doing it. I hear he was more of a boxer before he became a brawler, well whatever type of boxing he did back then must of gave him more success than whatever boxing Mcgirt was trying to teach him. I think McGirt gets fixed on one idea way before a fight and if that doesn't go right, he doesn't have any new advice during the fight. Remember they was talking about hitting Floyd in the Mongblablonga, whatever the **** they called it? Or hit him so much his arms would fall off. Didn't quite go as planned. Haha.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ELPacman
        Well you know what it was also. I think when McGirt got Gatti to win against Ward using abit more "boxing" techniques, he was immediately sold that Gatti could outbox anyone rather than ever brawl again. WRONG. Beating Ward by boxing him...that doesn't count for much. From then on, he was on this only box type of role and looked bad to terrible at while doing it. I hear he was more of a boxer before he became a brawler, well whatever type of boxing he did back then must of gave him more success than whatever boxing Mcgirt was trying to teach him. I think McGirt gets fixed on one idea way before a fight and if that doesn't go right, he doesn't have any new advice during the fight. Remember they was talking about hitting Floyd in the Mongblablonga, whatever the **** they called it? Or hit him so much his arms would fall off. Didn't quite go as planned. Haha.
        I don't think he could have brawled Baldomir and won the fight. I've only seen clips, so I could be dead wrong, but it seemed Gatti was doing fine when he boxed and got into trouble when he decided to stand in one spot and trade. Baldomir looks to be pretty good at cutting off the ring though. The one thing i've noticed under McGirt is Gatti does not hook to the body much anymore. McGirt tries to get him to jab to the body from the outside, but his body shots were one of his best punches and he doesn't seem to use them anymore.

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        • DarkSpyder
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          #44
          Just got this from *********, surely that Prince Badi dude is doomed against RJJ...

          In addition to this experience, Ajamu will have the added benefit of having trainer Buddy McGirt working his corner, along with his long-time trainer Denny Brown...

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          • SnoopySmurf
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            #45
            Originally posted by Red_Menace
            No, the only way Gatti could have beat Mayweather was a lucky punch. Mayweather would have had to get lazy in the ring, or take some form of uneccessary risk to let Gatti land a magic KO for Gatti to win that fight.
            True. There's always the "puncher's chance" which Gatti has been known to do.

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            • Katz
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              #46
              Its the worst year for McGirt.

              he is an overrated trainer for me.

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              • Kendo
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                you also have to look at it this way. none of his fighters listened to him. he was telling tarver not to throw wild punches and just to fight outside and tarver was going duh duh uhhuh but wasnt doing it. he was telling gatti not to brawl with baldy but he was anyway. the 7th round i think it was gatti stricktly boxed him and beat him in that round. same as the first round. i mean it was that easy. but he was trying to brawl he was like buddy said listening to the crowd to much. but you have tarver when he is being pressed does not listen to anything anyone says. gatti who is the same way. brewster who is still not that impresive to me. he beat wlad wow!! than he beat golota which again to me now is not that impressive. EVERYONE was singing his praises when he took tarver pass roy. but now he lost a few fights bc his fighters werent doing what he told them to do and all of a sudden he is overrated.

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                • amagnin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Kendo
                  you also have to look at it this way. none of his fighters listened to him. he was telling tarver not to throw wild punches and just to fight outside and tarver was going duh duh uhhuh but wasnt doing it. he was telling gatti not to brawl with baldy but he was anyway. the 7th round i think it was gatti stricktly boxed him and beat him in that round. same as the first round. i mean it was that easy. but he was trying to brawl he was like buddy said listening to the crowd to much. but you have tarver when he is being pressed does not listen to anything anyone says. gatti who is the same way. brewster who is still not that impresive to me. he beat wlad wow!! than he beat golota which again to me now is not that impressive. EVERYONE was singing his praises when he took tarver pass roy. but now he lost a few fights bc his fighters werent doing what he told them to do and all of a sudden he is overrated.
                  I see what you're saying but it works both ways. You are right that Gatti and Tarver weren't listening to his instructions. But part of that is because McGirt is asking them to do things that they aren't used to or comfortable with. There is nothing wrong with improving a fighter's weaknesses but you are who you are. Gatti is a brawler at heart and McGirt should have tried to work within those parameters rather than change him to a pure boxer. That being said I agree Gatti looked best when he strictly boxed Baldomir... that just is not his style.

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                  • jack_the_rippuh
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                    #49
                    Prince Badi Ajamu is another McGirt fighter that loss.
                    McGirt = owned for '06.

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                      #50
                      Definently not IMO. Gatti's days are ending and Baldomir was just too strong, Tarver was weak and got his ass embarassed, and I don't know what was wrong with Julio. The trainer can't fight the fight for you. As far as gym work I doubt anyone on these forums would know really.

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