Buddy McGirt, Worse Trainer of the Year?

[AllEyesOpen]

You are right.The one round were Gatti just boxed Baldomir and stayed away from his right hand he won convincingly even though he had to throw less punches to do so.

True, i was thinking about ol'Buddy too, but he was telling Gatti to box, which was the only way he could win, every time he would stand & throw, he'd always get the worst of the exchange.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

Buddy McGirt has always been a little overrated imo. He is a good guy and genuinely trys but he isnt the trainer a lot of people kept saying he was. For one thing he should have had Gatti keep both his hands up a long long time ago.

As for boxing baldomir that was out of the question he tried, but Baldomir clearly had the reach advantage at the distance popping gatti with repeated japs followed by right hands. Add to that McGirt had gatti with his left hand at his waist every right hand landed. As it did with mayweather.

Sorry buddy but not everyone should try to roll the shoulder and box from the outside.

[AllEyesOpen]

Buddy McGirt has always been a little overrated imo. He is a good guy and genuinely trys but he isnt the trainer a lot of people kept saying he was. For one thing he should have had Gatti keep both his hands up a long long time ago.

As for boxing baldomir that was out of the question he tried, but Baldomir clearly had the reach advantage at the distance popping gatti with repeated japs followed by right hands. Add to that McGirt had gatti with his left hand at his waist every right hand landed. As it did with mayweather.

Sorry buddy but not everyone should try to roll the shoulder and box from the outside.

Also true, but when he boxed, I think the 7, he won that round, standing toe 2 toe wasn't working at all, Mcgirt told him what he needed to do to win, but gatti wasn't dedicated to boxing. Also it did look like Baldomir had the reach advantage even though Gatti was an inch taller, & had a 3 inch arm length advantage.

[amagnin]

Also true, but when he boxed, I think the 7, he won that round, standing toe 2 toe wasn't working at all, Mcgirt told him what he needed to do to win, but gatti wasn't dedicated to boxing. Also it did look like Baldomir had the reach advantage even though Gatti was an inch taller, & had a 3 inch arm length advantage.

I think the problem here is a 2 way street. Sure McGirt asked Gatti to box more just like he did against Floyd. Problem was that Gatti is a brawler and his natrual inclination is to brawl. So my point is that McGirt relies too much on his fighters fighting his way regardless of their nature. Guys like Gatti and Julio just aren't pure boxers. There is nothing wrong with trying to improve these guys boxing skills but it would be wrong to rely on these fighters to become superior boxers. Use what they have not what they don't.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

Also true, but when he boxed, I think the 7, he won that round, standing toe 2 toe wasn't working at all, Mcgirt told him what he needed to do to win, but gatti wasn't dedicated to boxing. Also it did look like Baldomir had the reach advantage even though Gatti was an inch taller, & had a 3 inch arm length advantage.

He tried boxing and he stuck to it for as long as he could but he just kept getting caught with big shots, with full extension on them (because of Baldomir's superiority at a distance) from round 1!!

[Mishra100]

Buddy McGirt has always been a little overrated imo. He is a good guy and genuinely trys but he isnt the trainer a lot of people kept saying he was. For one thing he should have had Gatti keep both his hands up a long long time ago.

As for boxing baldomir that was out of the question he tried, but Baldomir clearly had the reach advantage at the distance popping gatti with repeated japs followed by right hands. Add to that McGirt had gatti with his left hand at his waist every right hand landed. As it did with mayweather.

Sorry buddy but not everyone should try to roll the shoulder and box from the outside.

He did not have the physical reach advantage.
Thanks to lilhopkins for this info

TALE OF THE TAPE
ARTURO GATTI STATS CARLOS BALDOMIR
Jersey City, NJ HOMETOWN Sante Fe, Argentina
April 15, 1972 DATE OF BIRTH April 30, 1971
5'7" HEIGHT 5'7"
70" REACH 67"
16" NECK 18"
38 1/2" CHEST (NORMAL) 38"
40 1/2" CHEST (EXPANDED) 41"
13" BICEPS 14 1/2"
11" FOREARMS 13 1/2"
7" WRIST 6 1/2"
12" FIST 9"
28" WAIST 34"
22" THIGH 19 1/2"
15" CALF 13"

[Red_Menace]

The thing I've always wondered is he seems to give the right advice in the ring but his fighters seem to be unable to respond. I mean, if just one of his fighters didn't follow his advice, then I would say it's just that guy being stubborn. But it seems to be the case with a lot of them. I know Buddy wants them to box, but if it's not working they're going to resort to their old ways. Perhaps he does not prepare his fighters to box as well as he would like them to. Of course, we'll never know, because none of us are inside the training camps.

[SnoopySmurf]

I don't think McGirt, Roach or Steward could have done anything for Gatti to beat PBF. Mayweather is unbeatable. Up against Hopkins? Tarver was either deaf or didn't have the abilities that night to listen to McGirt to be able to deat Hopkins that night.

[scap]

It has become clear to me that Buddy overuses the word "baby"...I had a stop watch and between rounds I counted 784 babies which resulted in 5 minutes and 18 seconds of the 8 minutes Gatti was in the corner.

Cmon man...cut down on the babies!

[restless_438]

i was about to start this thead last night

mcgirt is defiantely having the worst year of any trainer.

brewster, julio, gatti all got completely owned.

its getting to be mcgirts signature line to say to his fighter "i cant let you take this kinda punishment, im gonna stop the fight"

can't help but agree... his top 4 stars, all beaten in a span of 4 months...