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  • Roberto Vasquez
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    #121
    Let's just wait until see what happens at the end of all this. You can't call a man a drug-cheat until the full process is gone through. Guy was signed up to 2 anti-doping agencies. Lets see what happens first. If Whyte is found guilty I will be calling him a drug-cheat all day long. This thread is full of Hearn-haters jumping the gun.

    In the meantime there are other drug-cheats out there fighting now - Miller, Fury, Canelo. The last 2 have people idolising them and making excuses for them all day long.
    Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 08-02-2019, 07:52 AM.

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    • arraamis
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      #122
      This is a lateral coordinated white-washing ...

      The Promoters, Commissions, and the so-called testing organizations must think everyone is ****** or complete idiots.

      Why announce that VADA was completed, as if to suggest, when UKAD fudge the "B" sample that every things fine now. Nothing to see here .....

      That's why the UKAD is delaying their revelations about the "B" sample, which is actually a duplicate of the "A" sample without all the mumbo, jumbo BS.

      So now are we to believe that since VADA completed their tests and didn't find anything, that the "A" sample exposed by UKAD was a false positive?!?!?!


      This is complete BS - What's going on here is two-fold.


      1.) UKAD finding a positive result that VADA missed in their testing exposes the completely ineffective testing methods utilized by VADA and 2.) If that is the case then UKAD cannot be complicit in exposing both Whyte and VADA in a single stroke ....... The repercussions would be monumental. And the financial losses would be felt by the Promoters, the Commissions, the testing organizations etc.

      Therefore, a complete cover-up and white-washing of the truth is needed and necessary.

      COMPLETE BS!!!!!!!

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #123
        Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
        Let's just wait until see what happens at the end of all this. You can't call a man a drug-cheat until the full process is gone through. Guy was signed up to 2 anti-doping agencies. Lets see what happens first. If Whyte is found guilty I will be calling him a drug-cheat all day long. This thread is full of Hearn-haters jumping the gun.

        In the meantime there are other drug-cheats out there fighting now - Miller, Fury, Canelo. The last 2 have people idolising them and making excuses for them all day long.
        Very sensible post and something I have been personally advocating. Let the process finish and then we can make a decision, if it is proven that Whyte attempted to gain an unfair advantage and is guilty of cheating then by all means he should be put in the bracket of cheat like the names mentioned, Personally I think all proven cheats should be banned for life. But we need to at least give him the chance to go through the procedure.

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #124
          Originally posted by Straightener
          Yeh that’s true

          Would be nice if ukad released a statement

          Getting annoying now
          I think the phrase "cleared him to fight" is being used too loosely. Hearn is the only one using it. I think the appropriate phrase is decided not to suspend.

          I too agree that UKAD should release a statement. The fact that they haven't to date gives me more pause than it does confidence that things were done correctly.

          Nothing, and I mean nothing explains Dbol being in his system in a manner that results in zero suspension. So to me, the only logical way to CLEAR Whyte is for his B sample to come out as negative. Bad supplement, contaminated drink in camp, or drank the wrong drink in camp or all plausible mistakes that still result in suspension.

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          • _Rexy_
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            #125
            Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez
            Let's just wait until see what happens at the end of all this. You can't call a man a drug-cheat until the full process is gone through. Guy was signed up to 2 anti-doping agencies. Lets see what happens first. If Whyte is found guilty I will be calling him a drug-cheat all day long. This thread is full of Hearn-haters jumping the gun.

            In the meantime there are other drug-cheats out there fighting now - Miller, Fury, Canelo. The last 2 have people idolising them and making excuses for them all day long.
            Miller isn’t fighting that I know of, and I **** on Canelo all the time lol.

            Is miller fighting soon?

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            • Angeljuice
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              #126
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide
              I think they used a VADA test to prove the UKAD test was innaccurate. That's why he was cleared to fight.

              Surely they were very close to each other otherwise the NADP wouldn't have cleared him.
              Absolutely, I'd imagine VADA out-ranks UKAD too (with the latter only being a national body).

              There was more authority behind the VADA results.
              They would both be taken close to each other, the post-fight samples will likely have been taken the same day (day after fight).
              Last edited by Angeljuice; 08-02-2019, 08:22 AM. Reason: Spelling

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              • Angeljuice
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                #127
                Fury wants to fight Miller next (or so he says). He'll probably fight some Chinese teenager ranked 99 on some obscure governing body's list.

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                • Roberto Vasquez
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  Miller isn’t fighting that I know of, and I **** on Canelo all the time lol.

                  Is miller fighting soon?
                  All I'm saying wait until Whyte gets confirmed guilty. In the meantime you got Fury getting his 2nd title shot at a WBC title since being banned for being a drugs-cheat. The World Lineal Organisation has done nothing to strip him of that Lineal belt...

                  I got no idea about Miller. Rumour was Fury would fight him altho he will probably go with Trevor Bryan. Fury will risk nothing before the Wilder fight.

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                  • Straightener
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    I think the phrase "cleared him to fight" is being used too loosely. Hearn is the only one using it. I think the appropriate phrase is decided not to suspend.

                    I too agree that UKAD should release a statement. The fact that they haven't to date gives me more pause than it does confidence that things were done correctly.

                    Nothing, and I mean nothing explains Dbol being in his system in a manner that results in zero suspension. So to me, the only logical way to CLEAR Whyte is for his B sample to come out as negative. Bad supplement, contaminated drink in camp, or drank the wrong drink in camp or all plausible mistakes that still result in suspension.
                    I’m no expert on steroids but from what I’m reading dbol takes a long time to leave your system

                    So it’s a weird one that he pizzed clean within a small window before and after the failed test

                    Somethings not right .... hopefully the facts come out
                    Last edited by Straightener; 08-02-2019, 09:43 AM.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Straightener
                      I’m no expert on steroids but from what I’m reading dbol takes a long time to leave your system

                      So it’s a weird one that he pizzed clean within a small window before and after the failed test

                      Somethings not right .... hopefully the facts come out
                      I'm no expert either, but I'm reading that it's out of the system in 2-3 days. Further, after his June 17th test that was positive, when was he tested again? These are answers we need and maybe UKAD had.

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