Comments Thread For: Whyte Completes VADA Testing Program - But Not Yet In The Clear

[Ake-Dawg]

The metabolites, i.e. what the body breaks dianabol down into, remain in urine for ~19 days.

I'm reading "up to 19 days" for the hydroxymethyl metabolite, which doesn't necessarily rule out the 3 days for other metabolites. The media I have read doesn't mention hydroxymethyl metabolite being present.

[Jkp]

Not necessarily.

It all depends on the timing of the samples taken. Substances can be in and out of your body within a few days and if the testing organization doesn't test during that time period, your results can come back as negative.

And there are ways to flush some peds out. Eg blood transfusions, drips. Probably didn't flush properly before test

[Cobra Curry]

I'm reading "up to 19 days" for the hydroxymethyl metabolite, which doesn't necessarily rule out the 3 days for other metabolites. The media I have read doesn't mention hydroxymethyl metabolite being present.

Hydroxymethyl is what I've read in relation to Hauser's story.

I guess all will be revealed in time.

[cupocity303]

The WBC need to lift Dillians suspension.

But I doubt they will, they need to protect Deyonce.

I thought about this also.

How the hell does Wilder keep getting lucky with these long-time mandatories testing positive when he is about to be forced kicking and screaming into fighting them.

First one was Povetkin, who was his #1 mandatory and he requested TWO (not one but two) voluntary defenses from the WBC and they postponed the mandatory defense. Then they finally set a deadline for Wilder-Povetkin to negotiate and they couldn't come to an agreement, so it went to a Purse bid and Povetkin's promoter ended up outbidding everyone and took the fight to Russia.

He was forced kicking and screaming to go there but Povetkin tested positive and he never took an interest in fighting him again, even tho he gave Ortiz a second chance after he tested positive because he saw weaknesses and age that the could exploit.

[Scary_canary]

Because most of the supplement industry aren't allowed to do that, it is illegal and if every supplement industry had steroids all heavily mixed through it they would get their arses sued off.

I think using supplements as an excuse for popping for steroids is a cheap excuse, like dog ate my homework excuse. These mofos need to start taking more responsibility and people gotta hold them accountable! We're letting these disgusting cheats off far too willingly, ruining the sport.

Dude the supplement industry is shady as ****, it’s been proven to have happened before, look up Jeff novitsky and the research they did with usada, most athletes aren’t the smartest and most that come back positive have more than likely intentionally taken something but there is definitely a case for contaminated supplements

[Scary_canary]

You are correct but it was listed as Dimethylamylamine which is actually the banned substance Methylhexanamine. This was part of Whyte's defense but the National Anti-Doping Panel (NADP) found that Whyte failed to seek professional or medical advice before using the supplement Jack3D. Here is how it is listed with WADA:

-Methylhexan-2-amine (1,2-dimethylpentylamine);
4-Methylhexan-2-amine (methylhexaneamine);
4-Methylpentan-2-amine (1,3-dimethylbutylamine).

Whyte did not have an argument because the labeled substance is in parentheses.

This multi name argument has been used unsucessfully by athletes claiming that Ma Huang is a harmless herb when in fact it is Ephedra.

Your 100% right I’m not sayin he wasn’t guilty it’s the athletes responsibility to no what’s legal and what’s not....
when it’s labelled on the bottle whether it’s under a different name or not, he should no what every ingredient on the list is....
But a lot of ppl on head don’t seem to understand the difference between a “tainted supplement” and a “supplement that contains a banned product”.....
And just because it’s a banned product under wada doesn’t make it an illegal product, any novice gym user or active person wouldn’t have any issues takin these products

[Alan Smithee]

Your 100% right I’m not sayin he wasn’t guilty it’s the athletes responsibility to no what’s legal and what’s not....
when it’s labelled on the bottle whether it’s under a different name or not, he should no what every ingredient on the list is....
But a lot of ppl on head don’t seem to understand the difference between a “tainted supplement” and a “supplement that contains a banned product”.....
And just because it’s a banned product under wada doesn’t make it an illegal product, any novice gym user or active person wouldn’t have any issues takin these products

I shouldn't have used the word tainted in that context and it is crazy how many of these substances are banned. The Saunders situation for example. I dont know how much Oxilofrine would help unless you were under the influence during the fight.

[mrjoeblive]

The WBC need to lift Dillians suspension.

But I doubt they will, they need to protect Deyonce.

so you think they should lift his suspension before they clear him??? that makes sense to you???

[mrjoeblive]

there was no screw up.!

it was a deliberate fake news attempt by Haymon plants to get Whyte out of the way in the WBC and to find excuse for Ruiz-AJ to be in the US

Because haymon is promoting this fight?????

[Ake-Dawg]

I thought about this also.

How the hell does Wilder keep getting lucky with these long-time mandatories testing positive when he is about to be forced kicking and screaming into fighting them.

First one was Povetkin, who was his #1 mandatory and he requested TWO (not one but two) voluntary defenses from the WBC and they postponed the mandatory defense. Then they finally set a deadline for Wilder-Povetkin to negotiate and they couldn't come to an agreement, so it went to a Purse bid and Povetkin's promoter ended up outbidding everyone and took the fight to Russia.

He was forced kicking and screaming to go there but Povetkin tested positive and he never took an interest in fighting him again, even tho he gave Ortiz a second chance after he tested positive because he saw weaknesses and age that the could exploit.

So Wilder made Povetkin lose his opportunity to fight an eliminator and become mando again? How luck Wilder was that Povetkin got caught taking ostarine.

How lucky Wilder is that Hearn didn't agree to guarantee a Wilder Joshua fight if Wilder beat Whyte. Yeah...the WBC is protecting Wilder by convincing these fighters to take PEDs