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  • MastaBlasta
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    #131
    [QUOTE]Wilder was told immediately when Povetkin failed. Same when Ortiz failed. And the WBC could have been notified without naming names. It's a bad look to claim that "rules" stops professionals from doing the right thing. And a pitiful excuse that probably won't hold up in a lawsuit.

    But even if it did, you shouldn't be trying to defend it. It's wrong not to notify, period. Hearn notified everyone when Miller failed, long before the "B" sample.

    There is just no excuse. For once stand up for Boxing and the athletes. No one would fault hearn and BBBoC for notifying Rivas and the WBC. If Whyte sued he wouldn't stand a chance after testing positive in the first place. Hearn said cheaters should be lifetime banned. Then he's not gonna tell 1/2 of the promotion what's going on?[QUOTE]

    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    VADA is not a WADA signatory. They don't follow all WADA rules and guidelines, UKAD does. Miller was caught by VADA. UKAD followed WADA rules, they did nothing wrong.
    Yeah, they did. They didn't notify the WBC or the team. Everyone else is as able to keep Whyte's name and situation private, just like hearn and BBBoC . They don't have to publicly say a word. But they may have decided against doing the fight (without saying why). All involved are professional participants and have the same rights to pertinent info, and responsibilities to keep privileged info private as required.

    All hearn/BBBoC's inaction protected was the fight going forward at great risk with a cheater involved.

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    • MulaKO
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      #132
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Apparently Eddie is claiming an official cleared the gloves as acceptable in front of a Rivas official. But it doesn't sound like the Rivas team member was able to touch the gloves themselves.

      Also Team Whyte offered Rivas to use the same gloves he was using.

      Not sure this makes the situation all that much better, but thats what Eddie is claiming.
      Eddie will always make sure his azz is covered
      If that was the case , he would of mentioned it in that video he did a few days ago

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      • Sosay
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        #133
        Originally posted by BangEM
        It's over!

        Beyonce is one lucky SOB. All his tough mandatories failed drug tests. It's weird, lol.

        This guy must be on African voodoo or some shi..tt. I heard he's into that voodoo shi...tt, loool.

        But still no pity for Dillian Whyte.
        No, he must be too scary for these ******* to fight without attempting to cheat. Not voodoo just 1punch ok power I'm windmill form.

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        • kafkod
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          #134
          Originally posted by MastaBlasta
          Wilder was told immediately when Povetkin failed. Same when Ortiz failed. And the WBC could have been notified without naming names. It's a bad look to claim that "rules" stops professionals from doing the right thing. And a pitiful excuse that probably won't hold up in a lawsuit.

          But even if it did, you shouldn't be trying to defend it. It's wrong not to notify, period. Hearn notified everyone when Miller failed, long before the "B" sample.

          There is just no excuse. For once stand up for Boxing and the athletes. No one would fault hearn and BBBoC for notifying Rivas and the WBC. If Whyte sued he wouldn't stand a chance after testing positive in the first place. Hearn said cheaters should be lifetime banned. Then he's not gonna tell 1/2 of the promotion what's going on?


          Yeah, they did. They didn't notify the WBC or the team. Everyone else is as able to keep Whyte's name and situation private, just like hearn and BBBoC . They don't have to publicly say a word. But they may have decided against doing the fight (without saying why). All involved are professional participants and have the same rights to pertinent info, and responsibilities to keep privileged info private as required.

          All hearn/BBBoC's inaction protected was the fight going forward at great risk with a cheater involved.
          Hearn didn't notify anybody when Miller failed a VADA test, it's the testing agency who does the notifying, not the promoter.

          VADA and UKAD have different rules about who gets notified. VADA notifies everybody involved, UKAD only notifies the fighter who fails the test and the BBBoC. According to their rules, nobody else is supposed to know about it untill the fighter is found guilty of a violation by the adjudicating panel.

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          • Boxing Scene
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            #135
            Anyone defending this ******* cheater are the same people that defended Meatnello.

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            • BangEM
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              #136
              Originally posted by MastaBlasta
              Pretending to be Jimmy Olsen are ye?

              Get some evidence, take two aspirin, and call in the morning.
              Wilder is on PED. I know that for a fact.

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              • andocom
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                #137
                Originally posted by MastaBlasta
                Wilder was told immediately when Povetkin failed. Same when Ortiz failed. And the WBC could have been notified without naming names. It's a bad look to claim that "rules" stops professionals from doing the right thing. And a pitiful excuse that probably won't hold up in a lawsuit.

                But even if it did, you shouldn't be trying to defend it. It's wrong not to notify, period. Hearn notified everyone when Miller failed, long before the "B" sample.

                There is just no excuse. For once stand up for Boxing and the athletes. No one would fault hearn and BBBoC for notifying Rivas and the WBC. If Whyte sued he wouldn't stand a chance after testing positive in the first place. Hearn said cheaters should be lifetime banned. Then he's not gonna tell 1/2 of the promotion what's going on?
                Its pretty straight forward, Povetkin & Ortiz failed VADA testing, which is voluntary testing by a private organisation paid for by the fighters, they have their protocols, who they inform in the event of a positive test, they don't hand out suspensions, just test and report.

                Whyte failed the UKAD testing, UK government funded & mandatory, they have their protocols which include supression of atheletes name until found guilty of doping & sanction handed down. This is standard with WADA signatories as far as I know.

                The athelete can release the info if they wish but on one else can, BBBoC, UKAD or matchroom didn't inform Rivas because they couldn't.

                The B sample doesn't need to be tested before a provisional suspension, a failed A sample will invoke a provisional suspension generally.

                In Whyte's case he had a hearing with the NADP, the independant panel which adjudicates doping offenses, presumably presented his evidence and was not provisionally suspended. You want to point fingers, aim them directly at the NADP, but also remember they are independant of BBBoC & UKAD and actually heard the evidence and allowed the fight to go on.

                The rules were followed as they should be and if the US had mandatory testing under USADA a similar process would have taken place.

                The other thing is, if he is judged to not have doped and not sanctioned, the details are never released by UKAD, only in cases of a guilty finding, although in this case if that were to happen I'm sure Whyte would release the info to try and clear his name.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #138
                  Ha ha.

                  Go kick rocks, Shyte!

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                  • _Rexy_
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                    #139
                    Of course Whyte was on steroids! How else would he win?

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                    • _Rexy_
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      Apparently Eddie is claiming an official cleared the gloves as acceptable in front of a Rivas official. But it doesn't sound like the Rivas team member was able to touch the gloves themselves.

                      Also Team Whyte offered Rivas to use the same gloves he was using.

                      Not sure this makes the situation all that much better, but thats what Eddie is claiming.
                      Russ Anber responded to Hearn on twitter letting him know that he wasn’t even backstage, that didn’t happen and that he’s more than welcome to give him a call if he (Eddie) would like.

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