Coppinger Reveals More Info on Whyte's Dirty Test!

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  • thesmokingman
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    #51
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Whyte was found with the hydroxymethyl metabolite which is detectable for 19 days.

    Yesterday, July 24, BoxingScene.com reported that an "A" sample taken from Dillian Whyte by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) tested positive for one or more ba


    game over.
    No he wasn't. And even if that were true he was also caught with short detection window metabolites. lol, you are repeating things you don't effin know. For ex. even I was unsure till I made sure.



    Originally posted by Mammoth
    KTFOKING had it up

    From Coppinger:

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    One metabolite — 17-epimithandienone —was evident in Whyte’s system at a measurement of 0.9 ng/ml (nanograms per milliliter), an industry source told The Athletic. That’s nine-tenths of one part per trillion, signifying an ultra-trace amount of the substance.

    Another metabolite — 6B-hydroxymethandienone — was found at a measurement of 3.0 ng/ml, per source, which equals three parts per trillion, also considered an ultra-trace amount.

    Originally posted by thesmokingman
    *woops my bad got the detection windows wrong.

    They're both short detection window metabolites, within 3 days.

    I don't know why but 17beta-hydroxymethyl was stuck in my head. Iirc it was listed as one of the metabolites found in another thread. That said 17beta-hydroxymethyl is the long detection window metabolite.

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    • bigjavi973
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Am still baffled how VADA didn’t catch the same thing that UKAD (WADA) caught Whyte for.
      probably took some sort of masking agent when they tested him via vada.... who knows tho... still popped dirty so imo thats what really matters

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        #53
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        No the test was taken on the 17th.
        Just read Hauser's article again.

        The positive test result is believed to have come back on July 17.
        No where does he say the test that popped dirty took place on the 17th…. Just that the results came back on the 17th. You don't test and get the results back on the same day. Just not possible.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #54
          Originally posted by thesmokingman
          No he wasn't. And even if that were true he was also caught with short detection window metabolites. lol, you are repeating things you don't effin know. For ex. even I was unsure till I made sure.

          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...01&postcount=9
          You don't know. You see one metabolite mentioned as being 19 days and you assuming all other must be short. Even though that source is from 2006.

          Stop acting like you're some expert when you aren't.

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          • thesmokingman
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            #55
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            You don't now. Yo see one metabolite mentioned as being 19 days and you presuming all other must be short. Even though that source is from 2006.

            Stop acting like you're some expert when you aren't.
            Do most ppl put you on ignore?

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #56
              Originally posted by thesmokingman
              Do most ppl put you on ignore?
              What's your expertise on dianabol metabolites. Where's you link saying those specific metabolites are only detected within 3 days?

              You don't have one. You're a wannabe expert.

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                #57
                Originally posted by bigjavi973
                probably took some sort of masking agent when they tested him via vada.... who knows tho... still popped dirty so imo thats what really matters
                For me it matters for VADA to get in too, that means the WBC would have to be notified because they obviously sanctioned the fight, that meant Team Rivas also would have to be notified. Which meant the fight wouldn’t have gone ahead and Whyte would have been banned right away.

                Now we have a scenario where a dirty fight (Allegedly) has been allowed to fight without notifying his opponent. Looking at it from the outside it looked like a cover up amongst the parties involved.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  What's your expertise on dianabol metabolites. Where's you link saying those specific metabolites are only detected within 3 days?

                  You don't have one. You're a wannabe expert.
                  I'm gonna put you on ignore after this. Enjoy your ownage.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2031859

                  After oral administration of metandienone (17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-dien-17 beta-ol-3-one) to male volunteers conjugated metabolites are isolated from urine via XAD-2-adsorption, enzymatic hydrolysis and preparative high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC). Four conjugated metabolites are identified by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC/MS) with electron impact (EI)-ionization after derivatization with N-methyl-N-trimethyl-silyl-trifluoroacetamide/trimethylsilyl-imidazole (MSTFA/TMS-Imi) and comparison with synthesized reference compounds: 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-en-17 beta-ol-3-one (II), 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-ene-3 alpha,17 beta-diol (III), 17 beta-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-ene-3 alpha,17 alpha-diol (IV) and 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androstane-3 alpha,17 beta-diol (V). After administration of 40 mg of metandienone four bis-hydroxy-metabolites--6 beta,12-dihydroxy-metandienone (IX), 6 beta,16 beta-dihydroxy-metandienone (X), 6 beta,16 alpha-dihydroxy-metandienone (XI) and 6 beta,16 beta-dihydroxy-17-epimetandienone (XII)--were detected in the unconjugated fraction. The metabolites III, IV and V are excreted in a comparable amount to the unconjugated excreted metabolites 17-epimetandienone (VI), 6 beta-hydroxy-metandienone (VII) and 6 beta-hydroxy-17-epimetandienone (VIII). Whereas the unconjugated excreted metabolites show maximum excretion rates between 4 and 12 h after administration the conjugated metabolites III, IV and V are excreted with maximum rates between 12 and 34 h.



                  CIBA filed for a U.S. patent in 1957,[22] and began marketing the drug as Dianabol in 1958 in the U.S.

                  Detection in body fluids
                  Metandienone is subject to extensive hepatic biotransformation by a variety of enzymatic pathways. The primary urinary metabolites are detectable for up to 3 days

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    What's your expertise on dianabol metabolites. Where's you link saying those specific metabolites are only detected within 3 days?

                    You don't have one. You're a wannabe expert.
                    I found theres a lot of lawyers on here to all of a sudden and /or claiming to hold the highest degrees , who knew ? lol

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by thesmokingman
                      I'm gonna put you on ignore after this. Enjoy your ownage.

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2031859

                      After oral administration of metandienone (17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-dien-17 beta-ol-3-one) to male volunteers conjugated metabolites are isolated from urine via XAD-2-adsorption, enzymatic hydrolysis and preparative high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC). Four conjugated metabolites are identified by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC/MS) with electron impact (EI)-ionization after derivatization with N-methyl-N-trimethyl-silyl-trifluoroacetamide/trimethylsilyl-imidazole (MSTFA/TMS-Imi) and comparison with synthesized reference compounds: 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-en-17 beta-ol-3-one (II), 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-ene-3 alpha,17 beta-diol (III), 17 beta-methyl-5 beta-androst-1-ene-3 alpha,17 alpha-diol (IV) and 17 alpha-methyl-5 beta-androstane-3 alpha,17 beta-diol (V). After administration of 40 mg of metandienone four bis-hydroxy-metabolites--6 beta,12-dihydroxy-metandienone (IX), 6 beta,16 beta-dihydroxy-metandienone (X), 6 beta,16 alpha-dihydroxy-metandienone (XI) and 6 beta,16 beta-dihydroxy-17-epimetandienone (XII)--were detected in the unconjugated fraction. The metabolites III, IV and V are excreted in a comparable amount to the unconjugated excreted metabolites 17-epimetandienone (VI), 6 beta-hydroxy-metandienone (VII) and 6 beta-hydroxy-17-epimetandienone (VIII). Whereas the unconjugated excreted metabolites show maximum excretion rates between 4 and 12 h after administration the conjugated metabolites III, IV and V are excreted with maximum rates between 12 and 34 h.



                      CIBA filed for a U.S. patent in 1957,[22] and began marketing the drug as Dianabol in 1958 in the U.S.

                      Detection in body fluids
                      Metandienone is subject to extensive hepatic biotransformation by a variety of enzymatic pathways. The primary urinary metabolites are detectable for up to 3 days


                      I asked for a link saying the specific metabolites that where found in Whyte's test are only detected within 3 days. You post everything but that.


                      Wannabe expert.....

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